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  • Posted by broskjold22 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    philosophercat, consider if you would say the same words to ISIS that you said to AmericanGreatness.
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  • Posted by broskjold22 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I will also note that I have not received a direct answer on whether anyone believes in contraception, except an implicit "yes" from JohnConnor352. Thank you, John.
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  • Posted by broskjold22 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Number one: Your rebirth is not important is pure altruism, which is what I warned against on a prior post. Number two: To what sort of god would your rebirth be unimportant? Your argument scares me.
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  • Posted by broskjold22 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ayn Rand altruistic toward her husband? Her definition of altruism is sacrificing a higher ideal for a lower one. A common example of this would be when a man says he doesn't care what he and his partner do on Sunday. He may believe that he is being good i.e. altruistic. But experience shows having no opinion (or more likely being dishonest) about what to do on a day with your partner may be upsetting to her. Ayn Rand's concept of romantic love was exalted in the hierarchical structure of her philosophy. I assume we can agree to that? Then clearly she felt that "support" she lent to her husband had been earned, and that she was not sacrificing any of her ideals to do so. That said, I cannot imagine being to her standard. Quite a compliment to Mr. Frank O'Connor.
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  • Posted by AmericanGreatness 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, my proof is that we exist. What's your explanation for our existence?

    And yes, we (the human body) is the most complicated mechanism in the known universe. There is nothing else that even comes close. Not only is the functionality the most complicated, but we also have the ability to understand, learn, create, reason, and on and on and on. Nothing else comes close. You mention the complexity of coastlines. That's is less than child's play compared to the human body. For starters, we have the capacity to discover and understand the complexity the coastline you referenced. This is not even a debatable point.

    And yes, the laws of nature are the result of intelligent design. The laws a replicable and consistent across the universe. That does not happen by accident. To quote Einstein: "God does not play dice with the universe."

    The alternative to my position is that a universe that operates in mathematical harmony is the result of random happenstance. What's your explanation?
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    Posted by jtrikakis 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, you 2 choices 1) if the rapture comes while you are alive or 2) judgement day. Either way, you will find out.
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    Posted by jtrikakis 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    God, so a chicken can lay eggs. Wait, he made a chicken so the chicken can lay eggs. A is A.
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    Posted by woodlema 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Explosions = Chaos = perfect order, symmetry and timing?

    Don't think so...

    Unless you think you can take raw materials, toss them in a bin with explosives and get a 21 jewel perfect Swiss watch set to perfect time at the other end, no matter how many times you blow it up.
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  • Posted by JohnConnor352 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's possible that as the inevitable heat death of the universe occurs, it will collapse into a single point and then reexpand rapidly creating a whole new universe. The Big Bang may have simply the end of the prior universe.
    We know that things exist, even if we don't know where they came from. It's possible they always have. It's a much smaller leap to assume that than it was created by a being with no physical existence.
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  • Posted by philosophercat 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No god no religion. Man is a valuing animal. He experiences emotions in response to values and the basis of the sacred is our human response to our highest values on earth. By the way life began and evolved long before minds, They are a recent development.
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  • Posted by JohnConnor352 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Regardless of how trivial you find a person's motivations, they are still a right. A barely developed fetus is not a human, it is a potential human, and a potential is not the same as an actual. A potential has no rights (ethically as well as legally), and as such cannot be considered on equal bargaining ground as the actual human.
    After the first trimester things certainly change, but before that it's not a contest of two equal interests, but entirely the life and liberty of the mother over the potential for a human life.
    It has no more moral claim than do the individual sperm or eggs prior to inception.
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  • Posted by woodlema 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Da Vinci Code = bad fiction.

    My definition of faith as written specifically in the Bible is the only definition that matters, since it was the first definition of Faith as written by those who preached faith for those who practice Faith.

    Merriam-Webster is an atheist tainted definition that is not applicable to anyone but atheists.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We are not in a discussion about life. The topic is god. I suggest a new thread if you want to discuss life. Meantime, I would appreciate it if you would intelligibly define your god.
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