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Denying there is a god is meaningless until the term is defined. Most attempts are invalid, meaningless and contradictory and are therefore epistemologically safely denied outright as an impossible hodgepodge of contradictions that cannot exist. A characterization or it's alleged possibility that is imaged but not otherwise self-contradictory, yet still without evidence, is rationally to be dismissed out of hand as unworthy of further discussion as if cognitively it has never been said, not an "agnostic possibility" to be taken seriously. Both kinds of rejection of the belief are atheist, with the second broader.
Atheism is non belief in any god, not a rejection of all but one. It is true that religionists reject belief in gods other than their own, making them "atheists" about other gods (as you describe Dawkin's argument), but not necessarily for the same reasons as a rational rejection. If they understood the rational reasons for atheism (and consistently applied it) they would not believe in any of them. Instead they believe in a favored fantasy on faith and reject the rest as part of the house of cards, not necessarily out of any comprehension. And that kind of "thinking" is "different".
Christians do think the same as rational atheists in the sense of how biologically the brain operates and the senses on which it relies -- all humans do -- but not in how they use it epistemologically so their thinking is not the same. The epistemology and psychology of their thinking is Platonistic as opposed to Aristotelian reason. They add fanasy as a tool of cognition. Their mental constructs of higher level abstractions are fantasies accepted on feeling, confusing abstract knowledge of reality with the mental capacity of projecting cartoons -- re-recombining in the imagination some characteristics found in reality with others that are impossible.
p.s. who is AG?
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neuropathy in my feet, yet it is an unknown area of knowledge for me
since I am not a physician. . it's fun doing theories about people
whom I see at Sam's, but do not know. . this is a common adventure,
don't you think? -- j
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yet currently unknown. . like gamma-ray-bursts from the stars -- we're
still working on that. . the unknown, for me, seems to make sense
as the knowable, just not-yet. -- j
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"soul," the unknown deep individual identity unique in that person? -- j
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since lovemaking is just that -- lovemaking, and sex for conception is
another thing altogether. -- j
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and call the creation of it unexplainable, under the heading "God." . labeling
of the unknown can be arbitrary, yes? -- j
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I was a kid. . religion is a personal thing, not a church thing. . imho. -- j
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under which I deluded that any being which finds itself fully dependent
on another -- not because of force or coercion -- must accept the host's
decisions about its life. . I was reading a lot of science fiction then.
yet it fueled my ferociously strong desire for INdependence -- to
the maximum extent that I could create it. . maybe the fact that
a zygote or fetus is a human, subordinate to the host mom, is pertinent. -- j
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This is an example of a contradictory assertion properly rejected as impossible to exist in addition to rejection of belief in an arbitrary theist assertion as unseriously cognitively worthless.
For those interested in Ayn Rand's philosophical position on this -- which is after all the purpose of this forum -- see the Appendix on the Epistemology workshops in Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology, 2nd ed, p.148:
Q: what common features of particulars are retained in order to get the concept "God"—
AR: "I would have to refer you to a brief passage about invalid concepts [page 49]. This is precisely one, if not the essential one, of the epistemological objections to the concept "God." It is not a concept. At best, one could say it is a concept in the sense in which a dramatist uses concepts to create a character. It is an isolation of actual characteristics of man combined with the projection of impossible, irrational characteristics which do not arise from reality—such as omnipotence and omniscience.
"Besides, God isn't even supposed to be a concept: he is sui generis, so that nothing relevant to man or the rest of nature is supposed, by the proponents of that viewpoint, to apply to God. A concept has to involve two or more similar concretes, and there is nothing like God. He is supposed to be unique. Therefore, by their own terms of setting up the problem, they have taken God out of the conceptual realm. And quite properly, because he is out of reality."
If I asked you to define Hitler how would you do it?
People are the sum of their character and experiences. Your name is defined by your reputation. How do you define Obama? Only with traits, like Liar, Deceiver, Crook, Tyrant.
When you Think of General Patton, Hero, Arrogant, Tough, Driven, all traits which are and can be partly emotion.
If I asked you to "define" yourself how would you do it?
the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen
But I am guessing you have not read in its entirety what I wrote because you have successfully taken bits and pieces again out of context and knittted together something that suits your fancy.
Right Allosaur?
Just tryin' to lighten the mood ...
It's GOD, not god. That said I don't have to. GOD is perfectly able to provide his own definition, so talk to him.
Besides, as Dawkins points out, my guess is you are an atheist as to all gods except one. I just take it one god further.
All of your post assumes a fact not in evidence: a god. You need to establish the existence of a god before you can proceed with all the other allegations you have.
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