‘All about the money’: Motorists plagued by sky-high Calif. traffic ticket fines

Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 10 months ago to Government
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Not to claim Fox News is always accuarte, but this doesn't seem like it is anything but an excellent example of just how our government has gone off the rails to pay for all the things they want to give to everyone in exchange for their loyalty. Seems a poster child for what most people seem to think of our current masters....


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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I hear a report that they were killing Uber off, by calling the drivers employees and not independent contractors. It was in the Ca Labor Board a few weeks ago, and there was a lot of screaming over it. Uber may not be long for the California Empire..
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly, and Beaverton, OR was nailed for just those things.It's just a more efficient looting system...
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    3 times the pollution running engines at their worst, really friendly....I agree with you statement about the limits, but that is like telling the kids they can have ONE cookie. Hard to slap the hand of the looters
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    One would think, it seems a really good case. Just getting all the cats in one room is the problem...
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    maybe this is something that citizens can rally over and get the laws changed
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  • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There needs to be a general law limiting the amount of revenue that ANY unit of government can collect from fines to, say, 10% of its revenue. If it's more than that, that city or state has become predatory and an enemy of its people.

    In my city the biggest abuse is parking tickets downtown. The city has marked whole neighborhoods where people work during the day as 2 hour zones, so we have to move our cars 3 times daily. This is supposedly to benefit the environment. MY ASS IT IS!
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    But don't they ignore them claiming sovereign immunity? Either that or the sheep just can't get together except to complain...
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  • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The NMA has studied these, and pretty much all of them are preying on safe drivers, and cause more accidents to boot.

    Show me any intersection where there's a red-light camera that's making money, and I'll show you at least one of these facts:
    1) The yellow light is set too short, and increasing it by half a second will make so many of the violations go away that it won't pay to operate the camera any more;
    2) The camera operator has moved the vehicle-detector loop so that in at least some conditions, it is impossible to get the light to turn green without committing a violation; and/or
    3) Nearly all of the tickets are for right-on-red-without-quite-stopping, which is not an unsafe practice and should be legalized.

    The accidents the cameras cause, of course, are people slamming on the brakes and getting rear-ended because of the short yellow.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not according to two sources. The movies and DOHS plans to link up with all street cameras everywhere. Goes with the cell radio telephone tapping etc. etc. etc.

    IF and it's a stretch they are protecting us from Terrorists and not just the government from it's citizens why not just arrest themselves?
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago
    Around about two turns of the century ago the Progressive (Bull Moose) Party platform contained something called Initiative, Referendum, and most importantly Recall.If Californians object they have recourse. Recall is an excellent way of punishing disloyal governments.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    But Texas has that awful, predatory "Driver Responsibility Surcharge". I wouldn't want to move there while it stays in place.
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  • Posted by $ minniepuck 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Legislation to get rid of the cameras passed the TX Senate earlier this year, but it seems to have died. Very disappointing. I haven't met one person who likes them.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 10 months ago
    In California, the cost of gas, the taxes, the price of cars, and the chance of huge traffic fines leads to one thing:"Uber here we come!"
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  • Posted by $ minniepuck 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've been tagged by a couple, and I was not a happy person when I got the bills in the mail. One of them was when I was following my real estate agent and she ran a yellow so I hurried along and did, too--I got tagged but she didn't. Gah! I agree with you on both points (but make that to monitor anyone they feel like). The rationale was to improve safety, but evidence didn't prove their point. In fact, when one went off at night, the camera blinded everyone driving with a huge flash. It is all about revenue. State legislation to get them banned passed the senate but then died.
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  • Posted by zzdragon 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There are several cities that had to take them down. Not sure but I think there are only 4 cities in Texas that are allowed to use them. There was and maybe still is one in Richardson that they would post every month the amount of fines collected via this camera. Texans are very bad about running red lights.
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  • Posted by dansail 8 years, 10 months ago
    I'm surprised more people and businesses aren't moving out of the Republic of California. If I was him, I'd move out ASAP. Create his own gulch and live the way it should be.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 10 months ago
    Traffic fines should not go to the people who assess them. If there are going to be fines, they should go to something worthwhile that is NOT government- lets say serious disease research.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Californians should also pay for "Welcome To Our Wonderful Utopia" signs.
    Glad one of my brothers became retried and moved out of that state of delusions.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I kind of agree. Let California go totally socialist- your paycheck goes to the state, and they send you what THEY think you need to live and keep working. In fact, they should subtract what THEY think you should spend on health care, insurance, and other mandated stuff. Everything else is split up into electronic shoeboxes, from which you can only buy as much as they say and only where they say you can buy it. Lets get this over with
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