Or kill off all such idiots. Sorry, a snarky moment there. Besides, if we killed off idiots the world would be quite empty. But definitely force such people away from the public trough and any authority in the political sphere.

We need to eliminate Karl Rove from the political arena.

Karl,
Fat dumb and stupid is no way to go through life son.

The second amendment was put in to protect the citizens FROM the government when the government itself violates peoples' rights. The government now wants it repealed so that it can protect itself FROM the citizens.

I heard the tape and the whole conversation...that's not what he meant...He did say after that; That ain't gona happen along with other ways to stop this crap. I say...why don't we ban phyc. drugs and recall all project monarch participants and the next incident that happens...Government goes to Jail!

Eliminate all guns and people will turn to other methods.. Next it'll be crossbows, or something else. People that want to kill usually find a way.

Karl Rove? Treasury Secretary under Bill Clinton? Why do people keep thinking he is a Conservative? Having Rove advice conservatives is akin to having lucifer teach your Sunday School Class.

IMO, Rove means well, but he needs to go away. Remember his whiteboards with all the 2008 and 2012 Presidential election predictions? He was wrong on almost everything.

Thanks for your contributions Rove, but please, go quietly into the night, as W did.

Rove's usefulness has become negative. -- j
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I took one of my guns out of its locked safe and put it on a table on my porch, with a fully loaded magazine. I left it there for a week and it had not moved. It didn't go out on its own and find people to kill or maim It just lay there all by itself unattended and unsupervised. Violence is, it seems not to be in its nature. Only humans have that.

Violence is in the person not the object. Its like saying "spoons make people fat".

A guy suggesting to repeal the second amendment is begging for the day of the rope to happen...

You know the only way to end air travel accidents is to no longer fly.

The only way to keep from having a prison population is to no longer have prisons.

Rove seems to have forgotten that the purpose of fire arms is to maintain the peace. Remove firearms from the people and we would have had ground invasion after Pearl Harbor which would have likely cost us the war as the safe and protected places of industry would not have been able to build so much dealing with war on our home front.

Peace and freedom only come to those with the ability to be violent should they find the need. On rare occasions that violence will come when it is not needed and without that you can never have freedom or a free people.

It is as necessary to freedom as airplanes are to flight.

No, that would have been far too honest a statement for a GOP adviser (grin)

Here in the Gulch it should be illegal to take the spoken words either out of context or re-quote them completely wrong! That is a liberal media and democrat thing to pick words apart.
What he actually said is "The only way to end gun violence is to repeal the second A and he further stated that no politician has the guts to even try that". He never advocated such garbage and he never would. Get your facts and quotes straight before attempting to open a meaningful discussion here.

Good lord this man is a total idiot.

What utter nonsense. If you can make a bomb out of a kitchen appliance and some fertilizer, poison gas from a dirty sock or a cruse missile from an EBay drone there is no way to stop the devilishly deviant from making deadly weapons. Assuming that Rove was actually serious (which I doubt) he has completely destroyed any credibility as a defender of liberty.

We have always had nut cases loose, but now they get a pass by the touchy feely crowd, until they do something horrible. Then they become the poster child for being a victim to guns' availability.
Still no self-responsibility.
No matter what exactly Rove meant, the fact is, Democrats and Republicans alike, are overwhelmingly in lock step with the UN and their desire to get rid of guns in the US.
When will the politicians ask the real question about why acts of violent happen, which is not guns, it is people and their mental health, possible drug abuse, and brainwashing. So, the answer is, they never will search for real answers until we are banned so much as a butter knife.

Why are there so many nations where private gun ownership is all but outlawed, but where murder rates are negligible compared to the US?

Agree with Scojohnson: it was a hypothetical - only if we removed ALL guns....

Violence between people is a human issue.
Not an issue of guns, bats, rocks, knives, or bare hands.

People have been killing each other with or without weapons since there were people. Banning guns, or any other weapon, will not stop murder, merely slow it down.

The fact that people need to nuance his words is enough for me. He said what he said, and to me the implication is clear.

Thanks for pointing out he didn't say what he was alleged to say. I expect better from Gulchers than blatant misquoting. Judging by the other responses here, it would appear the article wasn't read and reasoned over by most of those responding.

There are two significant issues here. First, what is asserted here and second what he said.

What he said was the only way to "end gun violence" is to eliminate guns. In that he is likely correct. As long as guns exist there will be violence which involves them. Only if and when we as a species entirely ceases any and all violence would we avoid "gun violence" - at which point we'd stop making them and likely destroy them.

In that regard your comparative statement is correct. However, regarding the title given the post here, your analogy would be incorrect.

Here is why your analogy fits the actual statement he made, and does not fit what was written here (for the benefit of those who *don't* click the link and read the story):

Violence exists w/o regard to firearms. Medication overdoses and medication errors only exist if medications do. So technically, if there were no medications there could be no errors and overdoses of them. As long as they exist errors will exist and overdoses are probably going to happen, therefore the only way to be sure would indeed be to eliminate medications entirely. Not that it is realistic to expect it could be done - even if we pulled back and nuked it from orbit survivors would undoubtedly find surviving medical stores.