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"The political philosophy of America's Founding Fathers is so thoroughly buried under decades of statist... " - Ayn Rand

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"The political philosophy of America's Founding Fathers is so thoroughly buried under decades of statist misrepresentation on one side and empty lip-service on the other, that it has to be re-discovered, not ritualistically repeated." - Ayn Rand


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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Which is the quote that caused me to examine the use of the far left to re-establish a neo-feudalistic form of aristocracy. It gives serf-ing USA a whole new meaning.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Abandoned or carried out a pre planned sabotage mission as the did to the Populists. I rather believe the latter. Noted they had the support of the left-left wing media in that effort. And all the good little fist clenchers saluted and chantged Seig Heil we serve the party.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Who then had to pen the Federalist And Anti-Federalist Papers to explain what should have been self-evident. I wish for a time machine that could record the debates over the 10-12 years following the Revolutionary War. Just for the experience of hearing without commercials and half baked opinion spins.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    i would guess all. I have seen no evidence to the contrary. Nor the ability to do simple arithmetic without a sort of calculator with pictures. Twenty years ago one could get on the honor role for ''Good trys.'' As for constructing a simple sentence? Perhaps two. Huuuh? and Duuuh?

    I would hate to publicly admit I was a teacher these days even if I was one of the few remaining real teachers.No wonder school budgets are votes down and the students leave early to attend GED classes at the JC's.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Given that they own the money printing presses and are running at $18 trillion in debt officially and at least another $50 trillion in unfunded liabilities I don't see that mere checks bouncing are going to deter them.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    You are definitely in the minority.

    I learned cursive, but never used it, because it is illegible. I can print as fast as most people can write, and anyone can read it, even though it isn't pretty.

    To me this is like learning an instrument to play, and if I had to pick one for my kids, it would be piano not cursive.

    BTW - I used to be able to use a slide rule, and I can draw on a drafting board with a 30-60-90 triangle. Those make me a dino too.
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  • Posted by Technocracy 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    You require a translation if cursive becomes a lost skill.

    If they are unable to read it themselves, it must be translated into something they can read. A simple scan does not make it readable. Further processing either by OCR or a human is needed if you don't read corsive.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello Thoritsu,
    My typing is atrocious. My fingers are too fat or imprecise I guess. My caps button hates me... Too close to the vowel a. I must constantly proofread. I can write cursive much better and faster than typing or printing, but unless I slow down only I can decipher it. :) Still I think it should be taught for the human touch and individuality it brings and value the (albeit limited) security a signature brings.
    Regards,
    O.A.
    P.S. For clarity, that would be the caps lock button.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes. To my astonishment, I just learned that was the case with cursive a few months ago in our local school district, and not a peep of protest. No wonder they can't write. Do they print their signatures as well?
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    No, but I wouldn't want a scribe trying to reproduce one by hand. Typing the text, or a scan/photo work fine, and makes them broadly available to many.

    Who said anything about a translation?
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Not only does it fail to teach the basics, but its omissions are unconscionable. There is no history, instead there is propaganda. We are turning out a generation of ignoramuses.
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  • Posted by Technocracy 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    So you would prefer that people trust translations instead of reading the founding documents in their original form? Or for that matter most documents produced before the late 60s?
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, but that is a net positive. Like teaching buggy whip manufacture or shorthand. Cursive is a illegible waste of time!
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello winterwind,
    Whether intentional or not our public education system has failed...
    “I think with you, that nothing is of more importance for the public weal, than to form and train up youth in wisdom and virtue. Wise and good men are in my opinion, the strength of the state; more so than riches or arms.” (Benjamin Franklin, Letter to Samuel Johnson, August 23, 1750.)
    Regards,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years ago
    Exiting the constitutional convention: A Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin, “Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?” With no hesitation whatsoever, Franklin responded, “A republic, if you can keep it.
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  • Posted by $ winterwind 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    they can't. their handwriting is enough to make you shriek with frustration. they can type, but not fast touch-typing like we learned [or those who want to learn]. This is why so many jobs require a BA or BS, so they can be relatively sure the candidate has a high school education.
    Most importantly, they can't think. All their sentences start with "I feel like that Russia, should maybe think about..." or the equivalent.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years ago
    Many people no longer think. They have electronics to do it for them. But to understanf the Founders, you must start by understanding the Declaration and the Constitution. Then a bit of history wouldn't hurt. Pity that it is no longer taught in schools. The way things are taught today you might as well keep the kids at home, teach them to read and write and you'll have them as educated as most kids finishing primary school. And I'm not so sure that many school kids can actually read and write.
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  • Posted by RonC 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    For re-discovery to begin...I think the checks have to start bouncing from Washington. Then all of the mooches would gain a clear understanding of what solving their own problems is about.
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  • Posted by DeanStriker 10 years ago
    Not all of those who so many call "the founding fathers" were of ditto philosophies. e.g. The fine Declaration of Independence by Jefferson was omitted from the "supreme law" called the Constitution, penned by Madison, and then muddied further at the Constitutional Convention by a herd of 54 attendees.

    The result finally became the Constitution, which created our Nation and the Government of Force to Rule over the "citizens" aka slaves. Such breaches all common law of contracts, as it binds only the signators thereto (far fewer than everyone), and cannot properly bind others such as we much-later descendants.

    http://no-ruler.net/3460/failures-of-the...
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    My state of Alabama has good representatives such as Jeff Sessions--but overall he is far more the exception than the rule.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Amen. I think it's probably because the real Tea Party is ideals - not politics. Those who want to politicize it seek to do so for their own ends. The real Tea Party wants power in the hands of the people - not elected representatives.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I once wrote here about wondering why the Tea Party was asking me to join it after I already had.
    A Gulcher replied that there are different Tea Parties.
    I'd love to see that fractured movement band together into a far more effective political movement.
    The promise-making to be put in power spineless RINOpublincan Party is making me sick.
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