My first laugh of the day.
Answer: You can't type on a trombone, but you can triple-tongue. (3 very fast notes in a row.)

Just to cover another possible loose end: You can't type on a trombone either.

That does not address what I wrote in response to the anarchist revisionist history dumping on the framers as a "herd" imposing invalid "contracts". The Declaration of Independence was not not appropriate to repeat in the Constitution. The Constitution was a document specifying how the government was supposed to work. It was not a philosophical document and not a declaration of war against Britain. It was written in the context of accepted Enlightenment philosophy and the known results of the Revolution. The corruption of the Constitution today is a direct result of the European counter Enlightenment in the form of the Progressives and Pragmatists replacing the Constitution with statism and collectivism, not the lack of recopying the Declaration of Independence, which along with John Locke and the rest of the Enlightenment has made no difference to them wherever it was written. As for the clown who 'downvoted' my response, so much for serious discussion here.

The Federalist papers described much of what was meant by the provisions in the Constitution and why it was done the way it was in the context of the debates of the time.

This has nothing to do with the previous claims about the Constitution. The earliest colonization was "freedom to practice their own religion" and communal life that nearly lead to their total demise, as with the Puritans in New England. They were still murdering the Amish into the 18th century. It was pre-Enlightenment. The situation was much different by the time of the Revolution and the Constitution.

I don't remember every having not been aware of being distinct "me", though it takes time to conceptualize it. Outside of the evolution of the human brain long before anyone could record it for obvious reasons, this has nothing to do with claims of adults not being aware of themselves as conscious beings, let alone being ruled by space aliens. Someone is pulling our leg, or has lost his own and more. .

I was just trying to reply in kind, but now that I re-read it, it looks like I was attacking your post. I wasn't. I was trying to say that you were correct and I couldn't win that one. I didn't succeed.

While the Fed/anti-Fed opinions may be interesting, they became irrelevant upon enactment of the Constitution.

I would love to find a transcript of the Constitutional Convention. But we have now arrived at "Today" and "What Is".

What was arguably the best Constitution ever failed (yet again, as always) to protect individual sovereignty, bring America to this brink of human disaster. Governments of Force always fail.

Yeh, that part gets everyone, It comes from the Book of Enoch, although I observed it through unrelated study...I didn't find that historical reference until after my book was published. This is not to say, or not, that these creatures weren't here before us or that they were aliens from somewhere else...we simply do not know for sure one way or another. It is very clear, just upon observations of their behavior that they were not like us nor were they representative of favored life within creation. I have a very strict way of thinking and often express such observations in degrees of probability.

I didn't see the "we were ruled by creatures very different than us" part coming, but I have an open mind. It would certainly explain a lot about religion. Thanks. Will look into these references.

Absolutely, Read, and it's not an easy read, Julian Jaynes: The Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind. I also recommend: The theory of everything, By Ken Wilber and a little more difficult exploration of the levels of awareness is the book: Spiral Dynamics by, Beck and Don Edward. As I have integrated, just to give you a perspective, I observed and wrote about in my first book is that in the times of Sumeria and particularly Babylon we were rule by creatures very different from us and quite possibly the descendents of creatures not born of earth like us. They clearly were not like us at all. Before the fall of Babylon it was noticed by the rulers that something was happening to mankind that threatened their status quo, (kind of like in today's world) It was stated at the time and recorded in the O.T.: WE, must go down and confound their language, lest nothing be impossible unto them. That change in our behavior was the emergence of consciousness which gave us a conscience, a subconscious, the development of a 'Mind' and of course a connection to creation; know to quantum science as the ether. You also might be interested in reading my thumbnail sketch: The Fight for Conscious Human Life, at any of the download sites or at authorhouse.com

Sorry to barge in our your conversation with ewv, but I am interested in this concept that people were not/less self-aware in the past. Can you point me to a study regarding this?

Children are not self-aware for a while, even after birth. They respond, but are not aware they are a separate being.

In your historical example, I'm sure the similar concept of self-awareness is different, but such a different perspective could account for a lot.

Freedom of religion was really freedom to practice THEIR religion. Not for anyone to practice a different religion ( for example the Mormons). There were no specific property rights. Much of government then was for the good of the community (I forget the exact words). They didn't want soldiers taking over and living in their homes, except if you were American Indian. Individual freedom was ok for white settlers from England but not for black slaves.

Hmm, interesting. I find a huge difference between Historical lessons mankind experienced and recorded as opposed to 'Religion'. I have studied Julian Jaynes who discovered that mankind was not always 'Conscious' [aware of one's own awareness] It explains a lot of some of what objective folks view as bizarre in history recorded in the Old Testament, civilization for dummies in the Torah and the ancient blogs of the New Testament. It is a shame all that was organized with fear and mysticism by creatures that never gained a conscience but assumed they were fit to rule. Turns out that 'Conscious Humans that have chosen to be' are the elite and they are the great unwashed. This explains how we ended up in an upside down paradigm ruled by Kakistocracies. Happens to be what I write about. Trying to articulate a Conscious view and eradicating the mystical view. I think it's Hi time somebody did...don't you?

I used to plink around on the baby grand in the dark
late at night while everyone else was asleep. . liked
its tone, its feel. . women are far more intricate. . the
infinite supply of Os is intriguing. -- j
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You put the ribbon in a player piano and it was music to her ears?

hey! . I put the typewriter on the piano and made
words with a ribbon -- examples:::

what to say
http://www.galtsgulchonline.com/posts/70...

watching
http://www.galtsgulchonline.com/posts/1a...

-- j
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There was no need to repeat the principles of the Declaration and the objections to British rule in a document specifying the limited functions and operations of a new government. And it was not re-written by a "herd".