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"The political philosophy of America's Founding Fathers is so thoroughly buried under decades of statist... " - Ayn Rand

Posted by awebb 8 years, 10 months ago to Pics
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"The political philosophy of America's Founding Fathers is so thoroughly buried under decades of statist misrepresentation on one side and empty lip-service on the other, that it has to be re-discovered, not ritualistically repeated." - Ayn Rand


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  • Posted by $ winterwind 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's not the "generic" you, it's the singular "thou" that's missing. Christians decreed that it be used only in speaking to God, and smushed everyone else, singular and plural, together. It's amazing how clean your language gets when you got backwards to the actual 2nd person singular.
    The problem with the sentence discussed is that we all know is rude to say "he" [as is "one can learn as much as he is able.."] so we revert to the plural "they". Objectivists, in general, are very good about having agreed that "he" applies to everyone, and usually use the singular easily. If you're willing to write around it, you can do without the convention but you have to think about it a bit.
    --from one word -and-grammar geek to others
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  • Posted by $ winterwind 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thoritsu,
    Usually, because one can't do it fast enough, and it gets totally unreadable if done too fast - you need the [as the Brits say] joined-up parts to make it more efficient.

    Here's one the best reasons for studying Latin I know: spelling. My favorite example is the word "necessary". People agonize over whether it's a c or an s in the first syllable. However, when they learn the phrase "necesse est" [and the c is always pronounced hard in Latin}, which means "it is necessary or required", the spelling problem usually disappears.
    I would love to work on grammar with your daughter, and she'll ace her Latin classes! You are welcome to PM me any time.
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Signatures in informal writing are also more personal, just as they are unique in legal documents.

    The practical benefit to cursive writing over printing is that it is faster. to write. Unfortunately bad handwriting takes longer to read, but at least avoids the need for encryption :-)
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    See Ayn Rand's book Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology.

    Communicate what? If you don't have concepts, which require words to designate, you have nothing to communicate. That cognition precedes communication does not mean to live in vacuum and not communicate.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    For a long time a written or cursive signature was required for identification and verification purposes. Bottom of 1040 for example where everyone who signed committed a felony. In some forms of communication it was politeness if nothing else. now an unsigned email is sufficient or as the housing crashed showed a computer printout of a housing loan contract without the original signed contract in hand.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Being guilty of what Thoritsu said myself and having to 'fess up I balanced the Clown with my own votes.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    ya'll wanna break that down into English? you have a cite or is that an opinion?
    https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/.../cogni......
    A cognitive communication disorder is a broad term that's used to describe a wide range of specific communication problems that can result from damage to .


    https://www.psychologytoday.com/basics/c... ."Quite simply, cognition refers to thinking."

    com·mu·ni·ca·tion
    kəˌmyo͞onəˈkāSH(ə)n/
    noun
    1.
    the imparting or exchanging of information or news.
    "direct communication between the two countries will produce greater understanding"
    synonyms: transmission, conveyance, divulgence, disclosure; More
    2.
    means of connection between people or places, in particular.

    And those who can't communicate can not pass on their thoughts - except to themselves.
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I understand the problems with the generic "you" being misunderstood. This one was Technocracy's lack of agreement between subject and predicate mixing plural and singular -- one vs. they -- making it sound like two different entities doing the learning, It was ironic in response to your plea for good grammar!
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Totally agree that Latin is valuable. I took Latin in high school, and would definitely not have gotten a national merit scholarship without it! It saved my verbal score. My daughter is trying to get into Latin next year.

    Would love to take you up on teaching grammar. My son (20) is not going to apply himself, but Katie (16) might be up for learning what they should've taught in grammar school!

    I only seem to remember how to spell "grammar" because it is almost a palindrome. So weird how the mind works.

    Why isn't printing adequate for handwriting?
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sorry for the grammar mistake. I sometimes use second person instead of third person, and it reads as a personal affront. When editing, I often make mistakes.

    Even if learning grammar means me, it is still important :)
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The primary purpose of language is cognition, not communication. Those who can't think have nothing to communicate.
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The clown who downvoted this apparently doesn't know enough English grammar to know the difference between singular and plural and that the sentence it responded to does not make any sense. By all means, continue to keep learning grammar out of the schools.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wow the electricity is off! I'm helpless! What's this long yellow thing with a rubber end? How could the government let this happen?????

    Computers like pencils are a tool. They augment but do not replace the mind. Want to turn off the motor of the world?

    Create a blackout.
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  • Posted by khalling 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I love to hand write letters and cursive is something I miss doing. db likes lists so he gets my bold, loopy handwriting. "Coffee" looks beautiful in cursive. so does "quick" and "dead"
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago
    i have put together a precis of history on the development of the party system of government which touches on a number of subjects currently under discussion. One and two submitted 1776 to beginning of Civil War. Should have the rest pared down to manageable size and added. For the benefit of those new to the discussions and an opportunity for the experienced to expand or correct urban myths in favor of historical truths.

    Whenever it gets included.....
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Add to that a bit of 'Greek and an understanding of the genesis and etymology of the language. The people of that time having the advantage of no tv nor texting, at least the educated, were well versed in the use of language. English itself is an offshoot of Gemanic well salted with Latin, Greek, and a number of other languages. One might say it is the word sponge of the world. Any decent dictionary has a chart depicting the branches of the languages from inception to modern day.

    Be it computer controlled, a typewriter, a pen or pencil the point of language is to communicate. If one cannot write a clear, concise sentence the method of passing that sentence to others is of no consequence. If one cannot communicate one is illiterate beyond him or herself.

    My first wife was/is an art major looking for a teaching degtree. She saw no need for an understanding of English or any form of communication claiming art speaks for itself.

    True but not sufficiently true for an instructor of those untrained in art. Those who rapidly become the lumps in the back of the classroom looking out the window.

    She became a bank teller and never became an artist nor a teacher.
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  • Posted by $ winterwind 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thoritsu, et al. -
    I continually make the argument that people who want to use English well, and understand what they're doing, should study Latin. Those dumb rules that don't make any sense when applied to English were written for Latin, and once you understand them, you will know what a preposition is - and how to use it properly, not stiffly.

    OK, your daughter can recite the Constitution. Can she explain it, using current events as examples either upholding or downpulling her choice of 5 important parts?

    and modern cursive is NOT the way the Constitution was written - I have been a professional calligrapher, and I learned how to write copperplate with a modern "cheater" - a pen with an offset nib. I don't find much of it readable because it's too heavily ornamented.
    I do think that people show know how to write by hand very quickly and very legibly by hand, and it does tend to result in a kind of print/cursive blend, and it doesn't have to be messy! and yes, I can show people how to do it.

    It belongs to that list of skills, like Heinlein's list, that educated people should know - like "be able to make breakfast for 20 people".
    edit to ensure delivery to intended recipient.

    P.S. I would be happy to teach your children [depending on their ages] grammar long distance, if you like.
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The scope of unconstitutional NSA surveillance is staggering, both in the politics and the technology that few have yet to read about. But the point here on recent attempts at reform is that for all the recent controversy and Rand Paul's stand, it barely began to address what is authorized in the Patriot Act. If Rand Paul had succeeded fully, it would have barely touched the abuse.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If it's wired communication requires a warrant - unless there is a suspicion of terrorism which requires no probable cause nor proof or if it originates or is received or crosses the borders of the USA Such as satellite re-transmissions

    The wire transmissions - the old telephones and the new fiber optics have a blanket warrant in force for suspicion of terrorism with no proof or probable cause required.

    Lots of loopholes no one worried about it until the new Utah facility was begun.

    Remember the big deal about sub-cutaneous implants? Now people line up to own and operate the replacement for that idea although chips in ID and credit/debit cards is another such device. The replacement is the cell radio phone. People pay hundreds to be bugged and monitored.

    How do the eavesdroppers know it's crossing international boundaries or not? By monitoring..
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A very tired typewriter. The trombone, being a tenor trumpet, doesn't have all that high of a range.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    hey, Mike -- wanna read a neat song review? . I bought
    the online mp3 rendition of a doobies song, and then gave them this:::

    [the song::: "south city midnight lady"]

    You think China Grove is a good song? . This song is its
    delicious, elaborate prom-hug soul-mate! . With every hit
    from every instrument (and they use Lots Of 'Em!) just perfect,
    it leaves you with the taste of spicy sweet lips and magnificent
    body-rubbing love all over. . Haunting, glorious, masterful love
    through the night, with no dawn in sight. . Enjoy!!! -- 12spring

    [and another comment:::]

    This song reminds me of a lover's reply, afterwards, one night:::
    "That's Not Fair!" . She enjoyed more ecstasy than she had ever
    thought she could. . Haunting. . Love.

    That Was Fun. . both the review, and the special night -- j
    .
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