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And the republican joke fest begins

Posted by $ AJAshinoff 10 years, 11 months ago to Culture
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The circus has begun. Soon the infighting will commence and those who are decent among the republicans will be dropping out of the race, leaving us with the typical vermin to choose from. This nations government so desperately needs a colonic that the toxic sludge would likely kill everything in a 1000 mile radius.

Trump? Graham? Huckabee? Rubio? Christie? Pataki? Santorum? BUSH!?

This isn't a game, all the chips are on the table for the future of MY NATION. This is nothing less than disgusting.

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  • Posted by RobertFl 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Trump gets the economy,and American exceptionalism, and the like.
    But, I would say, relative to foreign affairs and military engagement, would he defer to the experts.
    In this sense, experts would be the military, and "scholars" familiar with geopolitical situations.
    I think Trump is very smart and capable, but how knowledgeable is he on Central Europe history (for example)
    No doubt better than Obama.

    Trump also strikes me as the type that would get bored easily and lose interest. Out source the Presidency so he can do season 12 of The Apprentice.
    "Politicians" make a career of this, and want to create a name for themselves. Trump doesn't need to do this. If it got old, he'd go do something else. Presidency is like having a kid, you own it until it turns 18. you have to feed it and wipe its bum, like it or not.
    that's what concerns me about him.
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  • Posted by bsudell 10 years, 11 months ago
    You seem to have forgotten a few REALLY good candidates -- Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Scott Walker. Why is that? And everyone talks about only those that you mentioned. I'm ignoring everyone on your list because I will NEVER vote for any of them. I'm still not sure about Walker; he seems a little to establishment for me; but the others are definitely ALL establishment. It's Cruz or Paul and hoping they will join together and run for Pres/VP.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 11 months ago
    I will have to vote for whomever makes it through the political sieve and comes to the finals and 'who is not Hillary'. I cannot afford to vote based on whom I want, but must place my minute amount of power to exclude whomever would be worse.

    So far, Rand Paul is my preference. He has warts, but I can work around them.

    Jan
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  • Posted by SamAnderson 10 years, 11 months ago
    Even a well meaning politician in the Presidency would be akin to Peter Keating trying to implement Roark's Cortland project. Between Congress and the entrenched bureaucrats even the best intended plans would be diluted and perverted.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    United Socialist States of America?!

    Jan, washing her keyboard after typing that line
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  • Posted by Temlakos 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The conventional argument assumes the experts are (a) really all that "expert", and (b) acting in good faith. Trump rejects both assumptions as unwarranted, and even at variance with his own experience and observation. How can you prove him wrong? Do you especially *want* to prove him wrong?

    That being said, *his* argument assumes *he* is smarter than all those self-styled experts put together.
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  • Posted by nln1219 10 years, 11 months ago
    Gods Gift to America??? There is not one single Moron in the race worthy of my vote.
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  • Posted by strugatsky 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Since every act of the government hurts the country, it is only thanks to this build-in time delay that we still exist as a country in the first place. With the mouchers naturally gravitating toward government jobs, we would have been just like Greece a long time ago.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 11 months ago
    Jeb was a good governor. Not up to objectivist standards, but who is? An objectivist, in order to get elected would need to keep his beliefs from the general public and say the things that would get the nomination and then the presidency. There are two things wrong with that. He would become a liar and as a result would be committing a fraud. That would make him the same as Obama at first. If elected to office He might actually turn the country around if he stuck to his guns and his basic premises. But, what I have just described is pretty much what Obama has done, only he did it on collectivist side.
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  • Posted by RonC 10 years, 11 months ago
    The other problem with Trump is within 30 days he would either resign or pull out what left of his hair. He has always worked in a world where if he wants something done it happens before close of business today. In government, first they need to form a committee, if it's important a select committee. then they discuss it, debate it, send the proposal to the house, they add amendments and take a vote. On a good plan it will pass and be sent to the senate. Dependent on leadership in the senate, in may not even reach the floor, or it might be sent to another committee, or if your lucky go to the floor for debate. After debate, if there are no amendments it gets a vote. If it passes then it goes to President to be signed into law. If there were amendments in the senate, they take a vote and if it passes it goes back to the house for another vote on the changes. By the time Trump gets his idea back in the form of a bill it has so many additions from the amendments it is hardly recognizable and certainly not timely. IMHO that is why business titans avoid the presidential job. Timing is everything and momentum is key to progress. Trilateral government with checks and balances is not conducive to timing or momentum.
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  • Posted by $ Your_Name_Goes_Here 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree. While it is refreshing to hear someone from a disadvantaged background articulate conservative principles, my support disappeared when he said he would support restrictions on 2nd amendment rights. In an interview, he stated "It depends on where you live... I think if you live in the midst of a lot of people, and I’m afraid that that semi-automatic weapon is going to fall into the hands of a crazy person, I would rather you not have it." I'm sorry, but the second amendment states that this is an unrestricted right.
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  • Posted by radical 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You're right about the 2nd Amendment, and this is sufficient to disqualify him.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If you listened to him on Hannity, that's exactly why he's running: his disgust for the establishment Republicans.

    He's not currently in my top five because of his positions on welfare and SS (he wants to keep them), but he does see the problem of government interference in business and peoples' daily lives and wants to reduce it. He also espoused a great view on foreign diplomacy and "the Art of the Deal" which made a lot of sense. He also is willing to defend the Second Amendment, so I have to give him props for that.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He would make a great Surgeon General, but while he understands economics and business far better than most politicians, I don't think he's versed enough in either fundamental rights (2nd amendment in particular), foreign diplomacy, or military matters to be a good President at this point. He might make a good VP candidate though.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 10 years, 11 months ago
    The Republican establishment is falling back on the old dictum of "it's his turn", and the selected anointed one is Jeb Bush. That will swing the money in his direction, making it difficult for any credible alternative to gain ground.

    I have an interesting scenario: Trump can fund his own candidacy, so the circus begins; but suppose Trump gets disgusted, decides it isn't a productive use of his time, and decides to throw his money behind another candidate he likes, just to undermine the established fossils?
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  • Posted by RobertFl 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The problem with Trump is, it'll be his way, or "your fired".
    We had that with Carter, and Obama.
    He's a smart guy, and I think he's very capable. But, will he defer to the experts when it matters? I sort of think he might, but, I dunno.

    Plus from comments I've read on Yahoo news, apparently having a "comb-over" means you're not qualified for the job.

    I'll still stand with Rand.
    Anyone but the Crypt Keeper.
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  • Posted by $ havepen 10 years, 11 months ago
    Too bad Joni Ernst just took office this year. In a couple of years, she'd have as much experience as the President had.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 10 years, 11 months ago
    Say what you will about Donald J. Trump. But he talks about things no one else wants to talk about. The worst name you could call him with any justice, is Captain Obvious.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 11 months ago
    Feminazi's Are their any left. Certainly none that are taken seriously after the NOW turned it's back on it's Sisters in the nineties in favor of Bubble Cute Butt. they had their five seconds of fame and threw it away. Equal Rights and the -isms including the reverse -isms are too serious an issue to be left to a bunch of cackling losers and quitters. Geller deserves more support than that entire fraudulent bunch of Good Time Whoopie Rosies. I reckon if women ever get equal treatment rights and responsibilities it will take dragging them kicking and screaming and yes that includes the right to be drafted which is not proscribed in the Constitution. It only defines age limits for men.as in the context of the times they were the capable of heavy lifting cannon fodder while the women were left to weed the garden and relegated to the role of baby factories - which - thanks to the NOW feminazis and the huge lack of support from people like Hillary is where they remain to this day.

    I do not lace and feather the the whole group. Just the one mentioned and that is both, a Democrat and a Republican joke and one of the main planks of the Government Party. In the context of our times.

    Infifighting is nothing more than carefully scripted street theater to keep your attention on the immaterial and irrelevant. I see nothing in that list of names to waste time.

    Are any leaders left in the country?
    Any at all?
    Do they exist?
    Civilian or military?

    Are their any in the ranks of the what's it called Blue Dog Democrats or Republicans? If so why are they Democrats and Republicans? I think not. I see no evidence of such.

    Or is it over?

    If so...let's talk about serious issues like a new name USSA is being bandied about the world and certainly deserves consideration. Or a new flag? I seem to remember Comrade Hillary had a design for one..

    Is that what'it's come down too?

    Written with a very bitter tasting tongue in cheek as a parody of reality versus wishful thinking.

    Sometimes the Fiction Of Reality is harder to accept than the Reality of Fiction. But sooner or later acceptance is required.

    I''m in a disgusted mood this morning. Paulo Angelo shall return after my second cup of coffee
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 11 months ago
    I am not voting for Jeb Bush, but when he was governor of Florida, things improved dramatically, especially when he got rid of the intangibles (i.e. wealth) tax. Jeb is definitely a better governor than his father or his brother, but we can do better than Jeb.
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