And the republican joke fest begins
The circus has begun. Soon the infighting will commence and those who are decent among the republicans will be dropping out of the race, leaving us with the typical vermin to choose from. This nations government so desperately needs a colonic that the toxic sludge would likely kill everything in a 1000 mile radius.
Trump? Graham? Huckabee? Rubio? Christie? Pataki? Santorum? BUSH!?
This isn't a game, all the chips are on the table for the future of MY NATION. This is nothing less than disgusting.
Trump? Graham? Huckabee? Rubio? Christie? Pataki? Santorum? BUSH!?
This isn't a game, all the chips are on the table for the future of MY NATION. This is nothing less than disgusting.
Previous comments...
Being careful not to disturb the sacred cows of retirement pay and social security and medicare of course.
On the other hand weren't all of them going to be investigated?
So if Obama can get away with it to further his purposes whatever they were. Why not Mr. well meaning?
On the other hand we could just roll over and play dead.
I'm suggesting that no one person is likely to be able to use the tools currently available to peacefully change a dysfunctional infrastructure that has been 100+ years in the making.
I'm beginning to smell blood, fear and above all I smell victory.
Next we'll do Humor.
Being careful not to disturb the sacred cows of retirement pay and social security and medicare of course.
On the other hand weren't all of them going to be investigated?
So if Obama can get away with it to further his purposes whatever they were. Why not Mr. well meaning?
On the other hand we could just roll over and play dead.
Being careful not to disturb the sacred cows of retirement pay and social security and medicare of course.
On the other hand weren't all of them going to be investigated?
So if Obama can get away with it to further his purposes whatever they were. Why not Mr. well meaning?
On the other hand we could just roll over and play dead.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
"Shall not be infringed" seems pretty clear to me, but then I'm not an attorney. <sarcasm /off>
None of which covers self protection except as part of military formation or living on the frontier or hunting .
Now show me in the Constitution where those three things are the sole domain of the federal or for that matter a state government? self-defense, hunting, location of housing which right now is not the frontier but the hood.
The right was never granted to the central government. It may have been granted to the individual 13 now 50 States and if so is probably different in each State. But if not it's a power not granted. So let's assume the feds are right and the National Guard makes your state irrelevant. All that does is make the USA the State that needs protecting by a well regulated militia. In that case we would be under the Swiss system where soldiers keep their rifles in their homes.
So the use of the Second Amendment at best and only if the state chooses to have a formal militia formation and some do puts you on a call up list. As far as your individual right is concerned it's a very weak reed especially in a nation that has turned it's back on the Constitution in favor of Executive Orders or simply by ignoring it. And has formed a protective echelon to back up that particular.
I can point at least five major (every four years) elections as my evidence.
The stronger defense is show me where the right of self-defense, target shooting, hunting and the like rights granted to government. You will hear a loot of booshwah about not needed but the need is absolute. You can't plink targets without a plinker. It's much the stronger argument and has NEVER been amended nor has that been attempted far as I know. Simply saying it isn't needed means jack. The only way the left can deal with it is ignore the Constitution and make show their fascist face only to clearly
and no you can't start your own militia only the State Government can do that.
You will recall Arlen Specter made a spectacle of himself in showing the face of American fascist extremism on this very point.
State Militias used or not and they do serve one or two purposes these days. One is to take charge of the local armories when the Guard unit is activated. Another might be working with employers on the rights of Guard members returning from initial training or a longer term activation.
Do I like it? No. But wishful thinking and misinterpretation (and by the way the Supreme Court has consistently ruled the same way) or worse redefining the way the left does gets us nowhere.
The battleground is rights not granted. and citizen responsibility and the recall and getting none of the above on the ballot and reclaiming the Constitution and making any adjustments the citizens want and they don''t want following without benefit of misinterpretation or changing the meanings and intents.
I'm beginning to wonder was 24 years Infantry worth the bother.
Article one Section Eight
"To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;"
And many other duties.
Which is why Department of Defense Regulations trump the lower levels and why the federal government pays 95% on average of the National Guard budget. All approved or required by Congress.
The Court stated that the right to keep and bear arms is subject to regulation, such as concealed weapons prohibitions, the carrying of weapons in certain locations, laws imposing conditions on commercial sales, and prohibitions on the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. (It did not define dangerous and unusual other than of a type similar to those generally in use at the time the Constitution was written (single shot rifles and muskets and pistols)
It stated that this was not an exhaustive list of the regulatory measures that would be presumptively permissible under the Second Amendment. (Left it subject to interpretation.)
The Court found that the D.C. ban on handgun possession violated the Second Amendment right because it prohibited an entire class of arms favored for the lawful purpose of self-defense in the home. It similarly found that the requirement that lawful firearms be disassembled or bound by a trigger lock made it impossible for citizens to effectively use arms for the core lawful purpose of self-defense, and therefore violated the Second Amendment right.
(restricted to in the home)
Because Heller conceded at oral argument that the D. C. licensing law is permissible if it is not enforced arbitrarily and capriciously, the Court assumes that a license will satisfy his prayer for relief and does not address the licensing requirement. Assuming he is not disqualified from exercising Second Amendment rights, the District must permit Heller to register his handgun
(and must issue him a license to carry it in the home. Pp. 56–64.[180])
The Court said it was unnecessary to address the constitutionality of the D.C. licensing requirement.(Thus failed to answer the question but assumed the right and evaded 9th and 10 Amendment issues.)
The outcome of D.C. v. Heller leaves some issues unanswered, including whether the Second Amendment restricts state regulation of firearms, and the standard for evaluating the constitutionality of other laws and regulations that impact the Second Amendment right. These issues will be the subject of future litigation.
Tell me again about no infringement?
Then again there is the habit of ignoring the constitution by current and former Presidents and let us not forget the above majority opinions laid out no less than five plus areas 'not visited by the Supreme Court and restricted the infringement to the home in a sixth.)
The rest was left up to the States and the lower courts although I did find that some states can authorize but not operate private militias.
Bueno. I concede uncoupled from membership in State Militias and do not concede
a. infringements as the plaintiff rights? were clearly infringed to exclude anything outside the home and in other ways
and b. powers not granted though they were granted to the States but not the federal government however they neatly sidestepped they had no power to grant rights to the States - it's the other way around. I think they knew it but did not want to admit it.
then sent it back to the States and lower courts with a clear message to continue infringements in an unexhausted and presumably presumptive list of other areas. Doesn't really meet the test of any definition on no infringement.
As for you lefties (being neither right nor left myself) 9th and 10th Amendments live and not visited by the Supreme Court is not a permission to assume powers not granted. Doing so openly is a Nuremberg Defense and open admission of guilt combined with a plea for clemency or leniency in sentencing. Tell Carville you need a better line of BS.