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anyone like Pam Geller?

Posted by johnpe1 10 years, 11 months ago to Culture
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ISIS is costing Pam thirty thousand a month for
security, given our 2nd Amendment. . what is the
justice in this??? -- j
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Moderate Muslims exist, at least in the US. But it's hard to tell them from the bad ones, AND, just like cops, the mostly-good ones will often help the bad ones get away with murder.

    The lesson I learn here is that if these people are going to have the same constitutional rights as everyone else, then we at least need some police around who speak Arabic, so that it isn't any easier for them to hide crimes than it would be for you and me.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 10 years, 11 months ago
    Old dino views Pam Geller as a heart throb.
    I read somewhere that she is a Jew. (Someone here said she's Christian). I'm not a Jew but I don't care. Which or whatever.
    Her being a Jew or a Christian with Jewish roots would in part explain her big time problem with radical Muslims.
    I've read all the comments here and noticed that someone called her a bigot.
    Modern day Muslim extremists are the worst bigots on the face on the planet. They act like bygone Nazis.
    Modern day Christians and Jews do not kill people they disagree with.
    Radical Muslims such as ISIS do not only commit multiple murders, they think up horrible ways of doing it. They also take little girls for sex slaves.
    I've heard Geller speak speak against Shariah Law being implemented in the USA.
    Shariah Law--Talk about a for really real big time barbaric war on women!
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  • Posted by Esceptico 10 years, 11 months ago
    It is a pity she is as outspoken on being a Christian as she is anti-Islam. I guess she left part of her thinking capacity on the doorstep of the church. Nonetheless, I applaud her for coming to the forefront and making an issue of the violent religious intolerance in the Islamic branch Abrahamic religions.
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  • Posted by brucejc04 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The First amendment guarantees Free Speech.
    No where is the initiation of violence tolerated by rational human beings. ISIS is not rational.
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  • Posted by kkeen842 10 years, 11 months ago
    Yes, want to see & hear more from her - and others that can drive the conversation that needs to be discussed! Where are the "moderate Muslims"?
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Keep your head stuck in the sand, if you wish. A reliable estimate is that "only" 10% of the world's 1.2 billion Muslims are extremist. That means "only" 120 million of them want to kill or subjugate all non-Muslims (and many non-violent Muslims as well). Your argument about a woman who dresses "provocatively" falls apart, when you consider that argument has never gotten traction in the court as deserving of a crime enacted on her by another. Exercising free speech does not ensure some won't react in a way that is threatening, but when the reaction is criminal, society must support the right to say things that may offend, and punish the criminal.
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  • Posted by gaiagal 10 years, 11 months ago
    What's not to like? Unless, of course, you want to fundamentally change the U.S. and/or support the imposition of Sharia law upon all human beings...then there's not much to like.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's surprising how few people understand that the police are not a security service. In fact most would be shocked to find that this issue was decided by the Supreme Court (Castle Rock vs Gonzales) absolving law enforcement of any responsibility to protect. As the saying goes, when the threat is seconds away, the police are minutes away.
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  • Posted by bsmith51 10 years, 11 months ago
    The sanity or lack thereof of Pam Geller's "antics" depends on the veracity of her assertions regarding Islam, particularly that Islam preaches that its adherents should be false to the world so that they can be true to Islam and its call for worldwide Sharia. It cannot then be known to what extent Islam, including the 2/3 of American so-called "quiet moderates" who nevertheless favor worldwide Sharia, is a threat to Americans at home and the non-Islamic world. Pam Geller is not in the camp of those who would wait to find out.
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  • Posted by Riftsrunner 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The police duty to protect is to the general public, not the individual. This is one of the lies that is put forward by gun control advocates. Citizens don't need guns for protection because that's what the police are for. Except, no, police have discretionary function and can ignore any call for help. And what makes it worse is they are protected by sovereign immunity in most cases, so you cannot sue when they don't provide that protection.
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    Posted by RonJohnson 10 years, 11 months ago
    No, I do not like Pam Geller. She provokes, then cries foul when she gets the reaction she wanted.

    While I defend her legal right to be obnoxious, just as I defend the right of a woman to dress in skimpy nothing, get drunk, and walk through a bad part of town at night, alone, it is imprudent for her to do so and I do not take it as my responsibility to protect her from her foolishness.

    Pam Geller's thesis is that Islam is taking over and that the end-game is sharia law. There is precious little evidence of this, except for the few extreme deranged people who have reacted to her provocations. The vast vast majority of Muslims have simply ignored her and her antics. The vast vast majority of Muslims are NOT lobbying for sharia to be legally adopted.

    Pam Geller is a bigot. She may have an expectation to be left alone by the government when she says and does inflammatory things, but she is disingenuous when she claims victim status for purposely provoking the tiny number of Islamic hotheads when they do exactly what she wants them to do.
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    Posted by fivedollargold 10 years, 11 months ago
    As Mickey Spillane might say, "She's one gutsy broad with more rocks than most men have brains."
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    Posted by ProfChuck 10 years, 11 months ago
    Pam Geller has the courage of her convictions so she pokes a bear that badly needs poking. She realizes that her actions put her at risk but it is a risk she is willing to take. How many of us can say the same?
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  • Posted by JSK814 10 years, 11 months ago
    Pam Geller is a patriot, and speaks AND ACTS in the great Judeo-Christian traditions of the USA and its Constitution.
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    Posted by livefree-NH 10 years, 11 months ago
    I would venture to guess that there are more legitimate threats to her, than there are to the current president. Yet we happily pay the salaries of the Secret Service (who have proven to be pretty damn incompetent at that!). I would also say that her needs to be protected are easily justified, even if it means to take some of the bodyguards away from politicians and assign them to this law-abiding, tax-paying, ordinary citizen. For God's sake, isn't that what the cops are for? To protect the good guys from the bad guys?
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  • Posted by philosophercat 10 years, 11 months ago
    I like Pam Geller because she has made a judgment and voiced it in public in an era that fears judging and being judged. Other than that I know nothing abut her.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 11 months ago
    So, anyone want to guesstimate where the $30,000/mo comes from.
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    Posted by minorwork 10 years, 11 months ago
    IMO, Geller is forcing the devout Muslims of ISIS to define a standard of tolerance in the U.S.. Many have Pam as intolerant. Ridiculous. Pam Geller is doing what few have the balls to do, forcing the revealing of Muslim's willingness to act based on there devout submission to Islam as ISIS is doing here, the Mid-East, and Europe. Once those intolerances are expressed in actions as Pam Geller has done, then the Ben Afleck liberals who plead for diversity and tolerance of supernatural worship of all types can realize the fruits of their embracing religions' "right" to enjoy a critic free environment,
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