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Would you prefer to live where guns are allowed?

Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 10 months ago to Culture
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I'd like to live right next to Ragnar, and that's it.
What About You??? -- j
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    10th amendment powers not granted the federal government.

    Or perhaps one of State Constitutions was granted the power by it's own population but if not and if so usually in the area of requirements to purchase but I don't of any State with a real state militia which changes nothing.

    Therefore 9th amendment powers not granted. is the trump card.

    I don't remember them being appealed.

    I seem to remember them being ignored which brings us to high crimes and misdemeanors.

    I don't remember voting someone back into office as a method of amendment come to think of it.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There's an old saying that decent people don't become politicians, neither to capable people.

    The question is as usual where do you find the names to squeeze into the table of elements?

    News media? NO
    Education? HELL NO
    Political parties in power? Double HELL No

    Any nominations from...damn! Here's a thought? From the citizens?
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed. It's called an Amendment To The Constitution. Unless you can get the Supreme Court to issue one of their own executive orders, or the Congress to enact a bill requiring a signature and a veto over ride.

    If you can't get any interest in Amendments for adding the word Education or changing Census of those present to census of citizens or replacing electoral college with popular vote or...replacing income tax with end user consumption tax or....the list goes on and on and on. If you can't get a Congress of the present party in power to enact a bill for that or perhaps dumping all non-elected from the Act of Succession or making themselves subject to Insider Trading or laundering tax dollars into campaign funds via Davis-Bacon, or the court to say a Representative and Senator are State Delegates not Federal employees, or a President to do the same by Executive Order, that leaves dumping the Party in Power forming a coalition of the disenfranchised and instituting Recall for those who don't have it at the local level and that means targeting selected areas of those 110,000 precincts and going after 13% of those who eligible to vote to who registered and do vote.

    No sweat!

    Any of those will get you to stripping the Executive and passing an equal amount of power to the Supreme Court.

    Remember the War Powers Act? Only the Republican half complied. The Democrats wars were started without seeking approval.

    And let's add a law against ignoring the Constitution in defiance of 9th and 10th Amendment. Wait a minute. It's already a law and a Constitutional law at that.

    But no one to enforce it except what's left of voting rights.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think that some court should have to OK any new
    regulation from the executive branch before it took
    effect, and that these regulations should expire in
    4 years unless re-approved. -- j
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  • Posted by 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I might be able to list my perfect choices on a three
    by five card, and have room left for a table of the
    elements. -- j
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago
    I lived wearing a weapon for 28 years. Living without one strapped on took some adjusting. Now I live where weapons are illegal except some used for hunting and predator control and of course the military and police and those the US Attorney General runs over the border.

    I also hang out in an area with an old style Las Vegas attitude of keep the tourists and foreigners happy so the control of crime is from two directions. Point of interest. the murder rate per 100,000 of the one million US citizens who live most or all the year across the border is slightly less than three. or less than thirty. The rule is stay more than fifty miles south of the border and use common sense when going and where going in the local area. Just like LA or Chicago or most of Houston (the latter has a rarte of 12 per hundred thousand.) When crossing North I can and may pull out a weapon and a carry permit where needed. I feel no such need south of the border.

    So...having read Hallings second book back to a Second Amendment comment. I realized it was a contract between the States (then 13 now 50) to ensure the States had protection. National Guard being 95% federally funded and 100% federally controlled doesn't qualify as a State Militia per Constitution.

    There is no extension on the subject beyond the State and to it's citizens that I can find. No Powers Granted unless they are in the State Constitution but it's either or both 9th and 10th amendment as the root source. Just like appointing people illegally. Having not been visited by the Supreme Court is not an excuse for seizing power a la Hitler or any of the others.

    There are references to self defense etc. in most of those documents except perhaps California and Chicago.

    It would appear from that view point control of citizens owning weapons is none of the federal governments business.

    Haven't thought it all the way through but it ties a couple of threads, one about using stories to spread knowledge, together in a practical example. Providing the Constitution is followed and therein lies the the problem with the dictatorship of the Government Party.

    Your turn.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hey, I'm a gun person (though I can't carry where I live, yet). I just don't want blue-state Americans made more afraid. They'll enact more bans if that happens.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I concealed carry, But this Arizona and it is the Wild, Wild West. So, if you're visiting just be aware and don't be afraid.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree with you - including agreeing on what should not be talked about on the internet.

    Jan, prudent...sometimes paranoid (only got one 'noid today - must'a misplaced the other one)
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Open carry is a completely stupid practice. It's like walking around with your privates hanging out. It needlessly scares people and makes enemies.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We all know that objectivists all make perfect choices all the time.
    (Hold on. I think my tongue has gotten stuck in my cheek)
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 9 years, 10 months ago
    Ever heard of Dr. John Lott's book..."more guns less crime". I guess the american people arent as stupid as we have been led to believe. They innately know what Dr. Lott discovered in the largest crime study ever done.....IE: "more guns less crime"
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  • Posted by jdmatthew 9 years, 10 months ago
    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be Infringed"
    At the time of the writing of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights "well regulated Militia" was understood as every male over the age of 16. That it was the responsibility of every father to instruct his sons handling, care and use of sword, shield and musket.
    Under the current wording of the Constitution NO restrictions to the ownership and transportation of Arms can be implemented. This being said, do not assume that I am against any restrictions at all. There is a procedure that MUST BE FOLLOWED, an amendment must first be proposed by ether by the Congress or by a conversation of the States under Article 5. Then this amendment must be ratified by 2/3 of the States.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 10 months ago
    Its been proven time and again, it is safer living where people are allowed to protect themselves. The "meanest" streets are where only the criminals have weapons and the innocent are at their mercy.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am confident that "they" will never take them away
    from the bad guys, thus the good guys will always
    need to be armed. -- j
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  • Posted by NealS 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I doubt "they" will ever be successful taking guns away. The only way would ne to go door to door and take them. I know of few people that would allow it to happen. Hell, they haven't even been successful taking them away from criminals yet, and they are supposedly trying to.
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