EPA moves to regulate new wood stoves

Posted by stargeezer 11 years, 4 months ago to Government
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So these regs will make present stoves 80% more clean and in five years they are going to make them tighter.... and then you will be able to breathe the exhaust right out of the flu - of course they will be so tight that the biggest fire you'll be able to build will be the size of a farmers match.

I wonder just how they plan to stop all the pollution that floats into the US from other countries? "Our" air, lakes and streams are all cleaner than they were before the pilgrims landed and passed their first gas here, but that don't matter. The EPA will still be tightening the rules on US until we aren't allowed to breathe without a catalytic converter over our mouth, nose and butt.

We have got to get rid of these people.


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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In the story, everyone made fun of this one colonist who felt a real home should have a fireplace. He also planted a tree when everyone else was trying to grow annular crops. They laughed at him for that too.

    Then you tell me about them passing a foolish ban on fireplaces where such were integral to the homes. Cold climate, thin atmosphere... my mind made the connection.

    I believe somewhere else I pointed out that my brain doesn't work like normal people's... :(
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm a firm believer in Serendipity (Which I believe was the name of the Torchship in "Time for the Stars")...
    In looking up the info on Farmer in the Sky, I came across this tidbit...

    "Heinlein also postulated that the surface of Ganymede was volcanic rock like the Moon. Subsequent discoveries have shown that Ganymede's crust is actually almost 90% ice or frost, covering a subsurface ocean."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmer_in_...

    Hot dog! I was excited about farming long-chain hydrocarbon compounds (petrochemicals) from Titan, but... WATER! I gotta get me mining rights on Ganymede asafp. Great news that there's water ice available that far from the sun. Of course, it'd be more useful a bit closer, but... nevermind.


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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Johann's folly they called it... What do you think now, eh?"

    "But, your seedlings, they are dead, jah? Here, we will grow more."

    - From ancient memory, "Farmer in the Sky" by Robert A. Heinlein.

    Johann's folly was the fireplace he put in his house on climate-controlled Ganymede, and the apple tree he planted outside his home.

    When a moonquake destroys most of the colony, disables the climate control, and the survivors have to head for the pressurized "city", Johann and his family remain in their home... cozy warm, burning his foolish apple tree in his foolish fireplace.
    Thanks for triggering the memory, khalling.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've lived in communities were they banned wood fireplaces/stoves. A community where EVERY house probably had one. The community was at 10000 feet so fireplaces were key to the design of the house. I am imagining lots of homeowner criminals and woodsmoke compliance police. luckily I sold the cabin before the law took effect.
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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 11 years, 4 months ago
    It's not about cleaner air or water, or reducing carbon emissions....it's about control. As I've said before, the next thing coming is that when a cow pees in the pasture, the pasture will then be declared a wetland.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The same "carbon dating" the talking head on Hannity used to determine that the ocean is the warmest its been in thousands of years...
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    Posted by $ Maphesdus 11 years, 4 months ago
    "Our" air, lakes and streams are all cleaner than they were before the pilgrims landed and passed their first gas here
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    On what data are you basing that claim?
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