A resonance frequency approach to stopping the motor of the world
In a prior thread, we considered the possibility of committing sabotage to stop the motor of the world. To stimulate the discussion, I took the role of "devil's advocate" and suggested that Galt might have engaged in sabotage. There was almost universal agreement that Galt would have lost his moral authority to lead the Gulch if he had committed sabotage, rather than only convincing titans to go Galt.
A recent thread entitled "Obama is John Galt" started by jimjamesjames was largely shot down as well, and for good reason.
http://www.galtsgulchonline.com/posts/30...
However, that thread made me reconsider strategy for stopping the motor of the world.
The looters and moochers in real life have taken Cloward and Piven's strategy of overwhelming "the system" with more and more moochers. This is an act of sabotage. This is a moral line that we have decided not to cross. This puts us at a strategic disadvantage.
Add to that disadvantage the fact that Bill Gates and Warren Buffett are convincing others (like Larry Ellison of Cisco Systems) to give to charity. I urge you to look at how many billionaires have taken The Giving Pledge:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Giving_...
Someone here in the Gulch recently suggested that this giving pledge might actually be their way of going Galt. I forget which Gulcher suggested this (Zenphamy? sjatkins?) and apologize to that person.
We all know what Ayn Rand thinks about altruism. I have said previously that the charitable contributions of these billionaires may lengthen the time for the collapse of the looter/moocher era sufficiently that there may not be a time when producers like us would be able to go back into the world. Their charitable contributions delay the inevitable pain for the moochers.
Now switch gears and start thinking about physics and differential equations.
Think back to when you took physics and learned about constructive and destructive interference. If there is a disturbance that causes an object to oscillate at its resonance frequency (or an integer multiplier of it), then the object will break MUCH faster.
For an introductory treatment of resonance frequencies, go to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance
For an example, see the Tacoma Narrows Bridge Collapse videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-zczJXS...
If we are to stop the motor of the world, an alternate solution would be to do something that reinforces the interference that the looters or those encouraging people to take the Giving Pledge are applying.
Does it make sense to convince MANY producers to go Galt, or will we be more effective by harnessing the momentum of The Giving Pledge to accomplish the goal of depriving the looter/moocher world of producers?
If one takes producers out of the system, how does this change the 2nd order differential equation(s) that would describe the producer-looter-moocher problem?
Please comment on
a) how one would implement such a strategy; and b) whether this would count as sabotage.
A recent thread entitled "Obama is John Galt" started by jimjamesjames was largely shot down as well, and for good reason.
http://www.galtsgulchonline.com/posts/30...
However, that thread made me reconsider strategy for stopping the motor of the world.
The looters and moochers in real life have taken Cloward and Piven's strategy of overwhelming "the system" with more and more moochers. This is an act of sabotage. This is a moral line that we have decided not to cross. This puts us at a strategic disadvantage.
Add to that disadvantage the fact that Bill Gates and Warren Buffett are convincing others (like Larry Ellison of Cisco Systems) to give to charity. I urge you to look at how many billionaires have taken The Giving Pledge:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Giving_...
Someone here in the Gulch recently suggested that this giving pledge might actually be their way of going Galt. I forget which Gulcher suggested this (Zenphamy? sjatkins?) and apologize to that person.
We all know what Ayn Rand thinks about altruism. I have said previously that the charitable contributions of these billionaires may lengthen the time for the collapse of the looter/moocher era sufficiently that there may not be a time when producers like us would be able to go back into the world. Their charitable contributions delay the inevitable pain for the moochers.
Now switch gears and start thinking about physics and differential equations.
Think back to when you took physics and learned about constructive and destructive interference. If there is a disturbance that causes an object to oscillate at its resonance frequency (or an integer multiplier of it), then the object will break MUCH faster.
For an introductory treatment of resonance frequencies, go to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance
For an example, see the Tacoma Narrows Bridge Collapse videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-zczJXS...
If we are to stop the motor of the world, an alternate solution would be to do something that reinforces the interference that the looters or those encouraging people to take the Giving Pledge are applying.
Does it make sense to convince MANY producers to go Galt, or will we be more effective by harnessing the momentum of The Giving Pledge to accomplish the goal of depriving the looter/moocher world of producers?
If one takes producers out of the system, how does this change the 2nd order differential equation(s) that would describe the producer-looter-moocher problem?
Please comment on
a) how one would implement such a strategy; and b) whether this would count as sabotage.
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Truth telling is a great way to throw sand in the gears. Ethanol (another name for moonshine) is a great example. To run the sitll that makes the ethanol takes about one gallon of fossil fuel for every gallon of ethanol produced. to keep the price down ethanol is subsidized by the tax payer another way of saying you pay for it without getting any. similar to the GMC bailout and how many taxpayers are still owed a Chevy. Ethanol is known to ruin engines even the Calilfornia EPA published a warning. The requirement for ten percent of fuel production must be ethanol was a boon to the fuel and agribusiness industries.who garnered most of the income including the federal subsidies. The workers of the grain belt got lots of jobs and also higher prices at the grocery stores.
A little sand is still a lot of grains of sand the work is done slowly but eventually it destroys. BOHICA and don't forget to check the lube for sand.
Or - already has? But that also goes forward as inexorably as does the time that is afforded to our lives.
I understand what jbrenner is putting forth as resonant frequency. To illustrate, I had a physics professor describe, as an analogy, what happens sometimes when you may be approaching say 55 mph and suddenly your vehicle is vibrating all to hell, and then when you may increase or decease your speed , it goes away. That is a product of harmonizing resonant frequencies inherent in an object.
I dealt with this phenomenon more specifically when it came to designing blast patterns in mining. The millisecond timing between each explosive loaded blasthole going off is absolutely critical in determining the vibration frequency that is imparted into the adjacent unexploded ground that is intended to serve as a stable highwall. That highwall is made of rock that has an inherent strength property. If you have enough blastholes in your explosive pattern that are going off at the same time or are in an impact wave propagation that has coincident timing - that rock strength is severely damaged. It's ability to stand as a slope is severely compromised.
jbrenner's point here is that societal/human behavior systems may have similar properties to material properties. As usual, humans have excelled at understanding material real world properties to the benefit of mankind and failed miserably at the same with reality based interactions of humankind. With the exception, I would posit, of Ayn Rand and other rational based thinkers (and founders if I may).
To extend the concept of resonance frequency as a mechanism to stop the current macro insanity and cognitive dissonance that is gripping our current world situation is a very important idea. A huge amount of exploration in pursuit of this is entirely worthwhile.
But, I would also agree with some in this post, that the actual motor that needs to be stopped is that of the one deliberately generating this rampant cognitive dissonance. Hence we get into how to circumvent the mainstream media with something else and then you get into the familiar argument of how that option is so far ratcheted down now with net neutrality that we are approaching 1930's Germany.
But, hey; this concept of resonance has huge merit and power to it. This will be occupying my mind for quite a bit here.
Thank you jlbrenner!
The 'strikers' in Atlas Shrugged recognized that Dagny and Rearden were worthy of helping, but chose not to because it would drag out the effect of the strike and hurt themselves. That they "could not afford". That was a proper moral choice based on objective considerations. It did not involve political rights, was not an irrelevant subjectivist choice, and did not directly concern "moochers" as the potential beneficiaries.
If someone expects to make a difference on a societal level by going on strike, he had best determine if anyone will notice.
But, to also be engaged in something productive, interesting, and rewarding is paramount. Haha! I'm obviously describing my current ventures.
If you liked the direction this thread took, I am going to recommend that like a new Gulcher named ArtIficiarius recommended in
http://www.galtsgulchonline.com/posts/31...
that you should go to
http://starkermann.com/Starkermann.com/W...
The third .pdf, particularly sections 5 and 6, are pretty interesting on the interactions between individuals.
Remember information is originated and received only by thermodynamic systems. If the systems focus on efficiency then you will find the least energy needed to maintain the system. Its called capitalism.
There are a couple of problems that I see here: One is 'how high is Up' and the other is 'black swan robotics' (not our very own blackswan, you note).
In the former case we have a variable 'time until dissonance' that is predicated on the affluence and infrastructure of the individual country (how high an Up point we start at). And - as this thread makes clear - the voluntary donation of funds to non-productive members of society figures into how long this affluence lasts.
The second, which may actually be a derivative of the first, is that when we come up against the threshold of general roboticization of our society, the model changes. From that point on we all, even the poorest, can become aristocrats ethically supported by our non-sentient robotic slaves. The question of 'productivity' in such circumstances is one we have visited before, on other threads.
So IF we shrug and IF it does not matter because either (a) our country starts at such an affluent point that socialism + charity is taking decades to erode prosperity, and (b) robots revolutionize economics before prosperity is lost, THEN our ethical stance becomes meaningless because the entire basis for productivity has change.
IF we shrug and prosperity is lost precipitously (war, epidemic, asteroid impact) THEN we can serve as philosophical templates for the reconstruction of a free society.
So, the conclusion that I come to from reading this thread is that we are a 'back-up on durable media' against catastrophe. (This is not where I thought I was going, but it is where I ended up...)
Jan
wonderful material for heat transfer. .could it be
scaled up for homogenizing the temperatures
across a "radiator" (convector)? -- j
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