The bone-snapping stupidity of the left

Posted by AmericanGreatness 8 years, 10 months ago to Politics
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The left will never understand that the US military IS the greatest force for peace the world has ever known.

"Si vis pacem, para bellum"-- If you seek peace, prepare for war. To further quote General MacArthur: "The soldier above all others prays for peace, for it is the soldier who must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of war."

The quickest way to ensure war is weakness... behold the world under Obama.

Bottom line, we already have two national holidays to celebrate those who try to stop wars: Memorial Day and Veteran's Day.
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  • Posted by ohiocrossroads 8 years, 10 months ago
    It occurred to me this morning that America hasn't won a real war since WWII. Granted, we did win the Cold War, which I have been calling WWIII for years, but that wasn't really a shooting war. Korea was a draw and is still officially in a state of cease-fire. Vietnam a loss. And any military action involving the Middle East and the War against Radical Islam, I am calling WWIV. We won the first two battles of Iraq, and were successfully defending Israel, but since Oblabla has been in office, he has seen to it that we are now losing.

    It's no good being the World's Policeman, and that's what America has been since WWII. If anything bad happens around the world, it is the US they look to, to make everything good. Then the beneficiaries spit on us and yell "Yankee Go Home" when the crisis has passed. It's a guaranteed path to unhappiness on a national scale.

    Maybe America needs to shrug in its foreign policy, and redefine it so it's not so self-sacrificial.
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    • Posted by eilinel 8 years, 10 months ago
      " If anything bad happens around the world, it is the US they look to, to make everything good. Then the beneficiaries spit on us and yell "Go Home" when the crisis has passed."
      Yep. I've been saying this for years. But I'm not sure non-intervention is the answer.
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      • Posted by ohiocrossroads 8 years, 10 months ago
        I'm not thinking isolationism, I'm thinking to only get involved when American citizens and property are at risk. Why get involved in Iraq and Syria now, when it is impossible to tell the "good" guys from the "bad" guys? If radical Sunni's want to fight radical Shiite's, we should just get out of the way and let them kill each other, instead of getting in between them so that both sides can attack us.
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        • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago
          It matters because it affects our ally, Israel, could have profound impact on global oil supply, and could result in radical Muslims getting s nuclear weapon... Isolationism isn't an option.
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          • Posted by ohiocrossroads 8 years, 10 months ago
            Yes, Israel. It's conventional wisdom to call them an ally, but let's be realistic: they get a lot more from the relationship than we do. Israel was carved out of the middle east with America as her protector in aftermath of the Holocaust out of an international sense of compassion. But over the years, that has been forgotten, the ancient anti-Semitism has come back, and Israel is surrounded by countries that want to wipe it off the map. The last 50 years has demonstrated that there will be no peace in the Mideast as long as Israel is there.

            So my plan is to create a Modern Exodus; to move Israel lock, stock, and barrel to the USA, and set it up in the American southwest. Let whatever cataclysm that is coming between the major sects of Islam happen, and our friends, the Israelis, will be protected from it. Then America declares war against the "winner", cleans the region of Islamofascist infestation, thereby clearing the way for Israel to return. It's not a matter of isolationism, it's a matter of having a plan and picking the time to implement it.
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              Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago
              And what will happen when 25% of world oil is controlled by enemies bent on our destruction? What will happen when they come after us on US soil?
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              • Posted by ohiocrossroads 8 years, 10 months ago
                Read what I wrote and think about it. After the Islamic Cataclysm, they won't be supplying 25% of the world's oil, because that capability will have been destroyed. The world oil market will develop other sources once the Mideast source becomes unreliable. The Fracking revolution in North America will take care of our shortfall. If our gummint gets out of the way of developing REAL energy resources, we'll have plenty.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 10 months ago
    The US military could be "the greatest force for peace", but it has been used as a great force for evil in the world.
    McArthur was the officer in charge that murdered American veterans of WW1 in the bonus massacre. He should have been convicted of murder and for violating Posse Comitatus.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army
    "At 4:45 p.m., commanded by Gen. Douglas MacArthur, the 12th Infantry Regiment, Fort Howard, Maryland, and the 3rd Cavalry Regiment, supported by six battle tanks commanded by Maj. George S. Patton, formed in Pennsylvania Avenue while thousands of civil service employees left work to line the street and watch. The Bonus Marchers, believing the troops were marching in their honor, cheered the troops until Patton ordered the cavalry to charge them—an action which prompted the spectators to yell, "Shame! Shame!"

    Shacks that members of the Bonus Army erected on the Anacostia Flats burning after the confrontation with the military.

    After the cavalry charged, the infantry, with fixed bayonets and tear gas (adamsite, an arsenical vomiting agent) entered the camps, evicting veterans, families, and camp followers. The veterans fled across the Anacostia River to their largest camp, and President Hoover ordered the assault stopped. However, Gen. MacArthur ignored the president and ordered a new attack."
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    • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago
      Great force for evil??? I hope this is a joke. The US military is and has been the greatest for freedom and liberty the world has ever known.

      You cite one episode to cite the great evil, yet you either neglect to include, or are unaware, that generals take orders. MacArthur didn't act on his own accord, he was obeying orders.

      Better examples would be the tens of millions of people around the world now free of oppression because of the US military.

      Preparing for war is the only way to ensure peace.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 10 months ago
        The example I cited is only about McArthur, not about the evil the military has been used to do.
        Just following orders is the excuse that statists use to allow people to do evil without punishment for their responsibility. In addition, McArthur disobeyed orders when he was told to break off the attack on unarmed civilians.
        Most of the things the military has been used for since 9-11-01 have not been rationally supportable or constitutional. This is my opinion from extensive reading, observation, and rational thought. It appears that we will continue to disagree on this.
        Central government cannot be trusted to wisely manage a powerful military. That is why so many of the founders of the country opposed a centrally controlled federal standing army.
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        • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago
          Again, what is the evil spread around the world by the US military? You cite one dubious example to support a categorically false statement.

          Over the course of US military history have mistakes been made, of course. Only one person in human history was perfect. But to assert that US military is global force for evil is categorically false by any metric.

          To make this assertion is analogous to eternally shaming America for the original sin of slavery.
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          • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 10 months ago
            I stated:"The US military could be "the greatest force for peace", but it has been used as a great force for evil in the world."
            Waging war and killing hundreds of thousands of civilians without any proven threat to America itself is an evil act that was and is being done by the US military. The WMD "threat" in Iraq was proven false.
            Invading another country on false pretenses is one proven example of evil being imposed by the US military.
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