Forgive me if I am no longer interested in pontificating about the virtues of this or the evils of that. It all just sounds like a bunch of musings in an echo chamber. Action, not words, is how these kinds of things should be met, and when I say action, I mean violence. It wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit to find that these two had been gunned down in the streets one day. The world would be a better place without them, and God knows this kind of thing happens all the time without the benefit of having been recorded on video. Drugs get planted if none can be found. Charges of assaulting an officer get made when no such assault ever happened. Citizens do hard time for nothing more than questioning authority, and the cops (criminals) go Scot free because they all lie through their teeth to protect one another.

I will tell you flat out that if that woman were in my family, those two cops would already be dead. Then, for good measure, I will still pursue the lawsuit against the department after the fact and give any of the proceeds to some organization that fights this kind of thing in the courts.

I said in a previous thread that the silver lining to the Baltimore riots was that the 6 officers involved in Freddie Grey's death were finally charged criminally. My problem with those riots is that the violence and aggression were directed at the wrong targets. Why burn down local businesses when the police station that is protecting the bad cops is right over there? In this case, we know exactly who the bad cops are, and they should bear the consequences for their actions personally. When/if we as a country full of citizens ever do react violently against specific police targets whose guilt is undeniable (as with these two border cops in NC), what would the consequences be?

If you'll recall the findings of the 9/11 commission. Al Qaeda was at war with us even if we were not at war with them. That's what it feels like when you watch a video like this one. It sure feels like the police are at war with us even if we are not at war with them. That begs the question, then. Perhaps we should be. I am not suggesting randomly punching the ticket of every cop you see, but I am arguing the virtue of going after the specific cops like these two who we know act to oppress us. If I were a cop and I knew I was no longer safe behind my thin blue line, I'd either shape up and make for damned sure my actions were always justified, or I'd go find something else to do with my life. No doubt other cops would go ape sh*t, but there are alot more of us than there are of them. If it ever really came to it, one of three things would happen to every cop. 1. He'd learn real freakin' quick how to respect our rights, or 2. He'd quit the force altogether, or 3. He'd simply be eliminated altogether and would no longer be a problem. I'd be OK with any of those 3.

There are two schools of thought on this kind of thing. Some would suggest turning the other cheek. Others, like me, would suggest and eye for an eye. If I am evil for suggesting the latter, then so be it. I know my sins and what I am guilty of. Calling on myself and others to no longer tolerate this kind of behavior from law enforcement officials is a sin that I perfectly happy to live with. I'm a live and let live sort of guy, and so long as my rights (and those of others) are respected, I'm good to go. If, on the other hand, my (our) rights are not respected, then I'm plenty well prepared for that too.

Yeah, God forbid a person annoy a cop by standing up for his/her rights. She would not have been annoying if she been left alone in the first place. There was no legitimate border enforcement reason to have those cops in North Carolina. The checkpoint simply should not have even been there, and they didn't have any reason to detain her at all. Of course she was annoyed, she has every reason/right to be.

Well, having only read the article and watched the video, it would be hard to make a judgement call, BUT i still believe in the rights of an individual to be fully protected against unwarranted search and seizure unless there is probable cause to be detained by law enforcement. I was unaware that border patrol agents could perform such an action and had the authority to detain a person or their property with the questionable reason that they "seemed nervous".

There are many of us that bristle a bit when we are faced with a confrontational interaction with an overly authoritarian official. We do have rights, we are entitled to fully understand why we are singled us out for special review and we do have the right to be treated as innocent until we have been convicted of a crime. I think I read this somewhere in the Constitution, a document that is slowly being relegated to some political backwater by our current administration.

Given the recent SCOTUS decision which held that holding a person to bring in drug-sniffing dogs without a warrant was a violation of the Fourth Amendment, these guys are in serious trouble - as they should be. And there is significant cause to question their perception of a need for the taser as well. This woman had a big mouth, but she couldn't have weighed more than 125 soaking wet - hardly a physical threat to either officer.

The simple answer is: power. She actually questioned their authority to pull her over and submit her vehicle to a search. We'll show her who's boss, might have been running through their heads when she got mouthy.
I do hope she gets a lawyer and sues them both, personally.

I agree. Like every dictator in history, Obama believes the world began with his birth and all he perceives as good is due to his presence on Earth.

put a uniform on some people and suddenly they think they are untouchable. is it any wonder why some wearers of these uniforms are killed. unfortunately those who wear the uniforms today are products of the brain washing that takes place in government schools. the stand for the almighty government!

"Soylent Green is people"

the wheels were put into motion long before Obama. remember we got the Patriot Act, TSA and DHS in the wake of 9/11-and so far it seems to be used more against the citizens of the US than any terrorists or illegals

I live in North Carolina, near a town called Angier, NC.

We quaintly call it "Little Mexico."

3 guesses why. You walk around with a hat that says ICE on it, and the streets vacate and business put closed signs in their windows.

It is in Obama's transformed America.

she was annoying, but that is not reasonable provocation

You all have made the case I would have made. Thanks!
This is another federal police offense against the sovereign people.
Resistance is essential.

Thanks for the legal insight.

My understanding is that standard law enforcement practice is not to issue a taser unless the officer has submitted to being tased themselves. I have to wonder if this officer had undergone it given how quick he was to pull it out when the woman presented no credible threat beyond a loud voice.

More likely people would be trying to leave for Atlantis.

Actually the international border extends 100 miles inland to the US. This includes coastlines. While the lady was clearly upset, she did nothing other than piss off the "supervisor." They did not charge her, she should have been free to go. However, if within that 100 mile zone, it is a no man's land where you really aren't entitled to all your rights as a US citizen. The war on drugs is a war against US citizens. I'm sure he went home to his nice family that evening and didn't give a care that he had tazed an innocent civilian.

None of it makes any sense. Who cares if she was nervous? What's the dog sniffing for? What does this have to do with patrolling the borders? If they do have legal authority to detain her vehicle, why not just do it and not physically fight the driver?

lol.

well, technically North Caroline does border the Atlantic Ocean and could be a hot bed for the citizens of Atlantis trying desperately to get here

From the article:
"Some pointed to a recent Supreme Court decision barring cops from holding suspects to wait for drug-sniffing dogs without probable cause to bolster Cooke’s position.

Others claimed Cooke was unnecessarily pushy and that the whole situation could have been avoided if she’d just been cooperative."

Just cooperate citizen. Just walk to that door over there that says 'Showers'. You can trust us. We have only your safety in mind.

Because in Obama's fogged brain the sun belt states belong to Mexico and ,hence, the border has moved north.