it's really difficult to estimate the truth, given all of
the spin which is exerted on information flying around,
these days. . I just do the best that I can. -- j
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very interesting. . please let me think about this. -- j
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Nah, a president wouldn't lie about that,
would he? Nah, no way.....

Yes he did tell his story. But no one else has come forward to say that he did it.

Disinformation is an interesting study.

"High-level lying remains modus operandi of U.S. policy"

As it should be. Bin Laden was a hero to many pakistanis on the street. If their government helped get him killed, there would have been problems. Sounds to me like we said that they weren't involved in order to shield them from the fallout.

This type of thing is and should be modus operandi for foreign policy. There are frankly people and nations out there that do not deserve the truth.

Ike did almost the opposite with the Gary Powers U2 incident. And by saying, yep, it was us, he challenged the Soviets to a game of World War 3 chicken. Stupid rookie thing to do. The Soviets, in essence, wanted us to lie about it even though everybody knew it was us. To admit it was basically an act of war and a direct challenge from which they'd have to save face. To lie about it would have given them a way out. Ike chose to slap them in the face.

yes;;; they have consumed so much kool-aid that
they are positively tubby and smiley!!! -- j

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt...
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well, there's Rob O'Neill who has told his story
convincingly on Fox:::
http://www.foxnews.com/content-spotlight...

-- j
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Let me toss out something ridiculous.

Suppose binLaden isn't dead. After all, why does everyone think that Obama got him? (As an aside, I'm thankful that he didn't make the announcement dressed like Rambo, carrying an A3 with bandoliers of ammo criss-crossing his chest.). The evidence is no deeper that Mr. Obama said that he's dead. The body was supposedly carried out by the spec-ops guys, taken back to the ship and dumped overboard. No forensics that I'm aware of, no film or photos, nothing. Even the doctor who supposedly fingered him got dropped.

Then again, a president wouldn't lie about that, would he?

Classic mob rules - the Don's actions and utterances are never questioned unless an underling spills the beans. In Obama's case, the loyalty of his crew is absolute.

I used to be a Conspiracy Theory denier. With Obama, who knows whats true and not? Nothing surprise's me regarding him.