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Survey! How Many Gulchers Have Gone On to Read Rand Since Coming to This Site?

Posted by khalling 9 years, 11 months ago to Philosophy
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You saw the Atlas Shrugged movies and you found the Gulch. You picked up the book, Atlas Shrugged and learned of a philosophy of life that explained how you've always felt but did not know how to completely articulate. Or-you hadn't read AS in years and were inspired by the movies to pick it up and read it again. Wait! Don't go yet! I want you to also let us know if you have read any of Rand's non-fiction since you landed in the Gulch. But wait! I'd also like to know if you have ventured to other Objectivist scholarly sites after learning about them here (seeing a video or clicking a link which was a cite). Looking forward to your responses.

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  • Posted by 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    still, this is a very innovative way of approaching her philosophy. I'd like to see a post on what you've gleaned from your unique perspective
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 9 years, 11 months ago
    I had previously read AS years ago and after seeing the movie I found the Gulch.

    I have read other books by authors who promote Ms. Rand's views example Terry Goodkind and have recently picked up all of Ayn Rand's books to read them.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    New Hampshire is pretty nice in June from what I hear. Is that where the 2016 Atlas Summit will be as well?
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Regarding technology start-up conferences, raising money and handling employees are issues that the technical people are not as skilled at as they are at the technology. Consequently, those topics are of more general interest. The technology aspects, of course, may be very sensitive from an IP standpoint, so I understand that.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Regarding quantum mechanics, there are some things I know, and far more that I and others don't know. As for the various explanations of quantum mechanics theory, I would have to learn considerably more about them first.

    In Atlantis, Galt gave lectures on physics. One clever addition to the Atlas Shrugged movies that was not in the original novel was a mentioning of the Casimir effect with regard to Galt's motor. I knew about the Casimir effect at the time, but was by no means was an expert at it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_eff...

    The Casimir effect was explained correctly in the movie. Positioning of two parallel plates at the time of AR's novel to several nanometers apart would not have been possible then. The machining tolerances still aren't good enough for a fully functional motor based on the Casimir effect, but I think they will be in a couple more decades.

    I was actually thinking of leading off a talk on "The Basics of Nanotechnology" with references to the movie regarding the Casimir effect.
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    Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 11 months ago
    How K came to objectivism and Rand.

    The summer before K's senior year in college she had a friend who was getting married. It turned out that the groom had a brother coming from Texas (to Iowa) who was single, but the bride had already reserved him (without his knowledge) for her sister. When the brother shows up to bar where the wedding party is meeting that night K decides that her friend had no right to reserve anyone. As a result, she and the other two brides maids cornered the brother. They had heard he was a little weird, after all he was not an Iowa socialist and thought capitalism was great. K and the other brides maids thought they would challenge him to explain all of Rand's philosophy off the top of his. The sister seemed to lose interest fairly quickly, but K and the other bride maid thought it was great fun to smile and joke and harass the brother as he explained objectivism. K went so far as to play footsies with the brother during his explanation. Despite this the brother took it all good naturedly and he got his revenge with K when he flipped her later that night. The rest is history.
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  • Posted by WilliamRThomas 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That sounds like an interesting possibility. We'll be looking for next year's speakers around November, I expect.
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  • Posted by Ibecame 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, just an odd ball. I wanted to know, who she was, and how she thought. I have done a lot of work in technical writing, but not as a author.
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  • Posted by bsmith51 9 years, 11 months ago
    My stepson, now 41, stayed with us the summer after HS graduation, along with a friend of his. They read AS while working a construction job and getting harassed by the construction workers for planning to go to college, as well as being sober and, hmmm...shall I say, sexually pure.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks, William. I reviewed Dale's book and was intrigued by his analogy between entropic effects and economic consequences. If you are interested, I'll gladly give a short course (1-3 hours depending on interest) on nanotechnology and/or tissue engineering at a future Atlas Summit.
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  • Posted by radical 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I formed my own Galt's Gulch. It was a gutty move if I do say so myself. In 1983 I quit financing my own destruction. I watch with horror, and amusement, at the goings - on around me. If you want to know more, contact me at norm@gasllc.biz
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  • Posted by cjferraris 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not yet, he's expending almost all of his energy into building his business and with getting the municipal filings, and all of the other things associated with starting a new business, we have had little time for much other than a movie once a month. However, as he's jumping through all of the hoops that he's learning about, he's more galvanized in his beliefs. I will introduce him after he is able to keep his head above water which will be soon, I hope.
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  • Posted by bsmith51 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, as well as Anthem, Capitalism...Ideal, Fount..... Also received the Objectivist newsletter for a few years.
    About the only thing I never understood was her essay on "Who Killed Marilyn Monroe?".
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  • Posted by autumnleaves 9 years, 11 months ago
    I first read AS in 1963. Loved it...it was how I always felt but didn't know how to articulate those thoughts.
    Since reading AS, I've read everything AR has written, and AS several times.

    I retired 20 years ago and have not read AS during those 20 years. My daughter bought me a nice new copy for Mother's Day.

    What was a nice serendipity, there were four 30 yr old couples there and me opening my copy of AS brought the subject of AR and her philosophy to the crowd.

    I wished I had copies to give to them. (note to self, I will get some to give away)

    I go to many O sites that I find reference to while being "in the Gulch".

    I have not seen the movies as I like to read better than watch films.
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  • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hi J,

    last year at Atlas Summit they had Ladar Levision of lavabit there (they provided Snowden his secure email). He did not delve in depth into the technology of his secure email system and how he was going to make it better, but he did discuss it at a high level. I had a chance to talk with him after the sessions and we discussed some ideas of how to eliminate even the metadata information.

    Also David Harriman was there. He is a physicist who has studied the philosophy of science and induction and has some great stories about Newton.

    I used to go to these technology start-up conferences and all they talked about was how to raise money or how to handle employees, not a word on actual technologies. I thought they could at least have a panel discussion on the hottest new technologies or something like that, while explaining a little about the technologies.

    Perhaps you and I should brainstorm on what would make a good talk for 2016 that is about technology and objectivism/Rand. I have thought that a talk about the Copenhagen Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics would allow for a good cross over between science and objectivism. I saw a good paper that compared Objective Oriented Programming to Rand's epistemology Perhaps a history of an area of technology that is related to Atlas Shrugged might be of general interest. Thoughts?
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  • Posted by Temlakos 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ever heard of the Palo Alto Book Service? They carried almost all back issues of The Objectivist, plus bound volumes of The Objectivist Newsletter and The Ayn Rand Letter.
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  • Posted by Ibecame 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Husband I Bought - What a story of sacrifice, it does kinda put you in a daze. It made me wonder if I could sacrifice that much, although my wife and I have been married now for many years. Ayn really understood emotions. I really liked "Good Copy". I usually don't like intrigue or mysteries, because I figure them out early on, but this one had me caught right up to the end. "The Early Ayn Rand" probably isn't a good book for the novice, unless you are someone like me that wanted to see how she progressed. I have been going through in somewhat of a chronological order, and I wanted to experience the development of her writing. For me it was a great book. "I have not gotten to "We the Living" yet, but I do have copy.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    wow. I want to spend time in your library. How did you acquire the back issues at the time? We subscribed to the letter and Newsletter. Also something I think was called Aristo-which was an arts focused publication.
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  • Posted by radical 9 years, 11 months ago
    I have a complete set of Ayn Rand's periodicals of the 60s and 70s. I have read "We The Living," '"The Fountainhead," and "Atlas Shrugged." I have patterned a great deal of my life from her teachings.
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