Those who believe in the mystics for the most part will never change their view. For the most part I wouldn't want them to for if they didn't believe in their God they would be lost and completely unproductive because they cannot believe in themselves without a mental spiritual being to plod them along. We here in the Gulch believe in the power of ourselves (or I hope you do). When we or they poke fun at their respective religions history tells us someone is going to die or a very large group will die for those actions no matter what our constitution says for the rest of the world don't care about our constitution. There is a saying I like to tell my daughter "everything is funny until someone gets their eye poked out". I don't matter how we here feel it is those out there that will dispatch you if you insult their religion. I don't know a cure all but unless one gets rid of all religion there will always be a war over it.
I have high esteem for Pamela Geller. I prize the note of thanks she sent me in response to my e-mail to her a few days ago. Unlike most Americans, she puts her God-given freedoms before her personal safety and security.
I suggest that we must honor and emulate such principled courage if we wish to deserve the sobriquet: American.
We ought to all thank Pam Geller, for lighting the way and blazing the trail. Fie on you, idiots who choose the illusion of safety over the preservation and enhancement of freedom.
Again, will the cowards who ransom their own and their children’s freedom for the vain expectation of safety ever realize that pandering to maniacs, far from getting them to like us, will ensure our receiving their greater contempt and telegraphing our weakness and timidity to them.
My late father fought in the invasion of Normandy and the Battle of the Bulge, not so craven cowards could sell the birthright he served for in exchange for “a mess of pottage.”
I know what you are saying, I look at our rights, our Constitution, Declaration of Independence as beautiful gifts from above to be protected and treasured. JMHO. In the same flow of things, one can say all Muslims follow ISIS and Jihad, and yet we know this is not the case. And unless the Imams speak up, Muslims in this country will be treated with more and more distrust and 'non-governmental' justice. The thing is people were harmed...not by the cartoons themselves but by the idiots who said they were offended. Whenever you open your mouth, you are not going to please everyone. Anyone who cares about America, eventually will tell the GOV they are as useless as tits on a bull, we'll take care of this. Americans are pretty loyal dogs, but if provoked enough we will bite back. They would be most fool hardy to poke our bear as much as we poke theirs.
There is never an excuse for murder in the name of religion. I take the example of Japan: Islam is banned there. That religion and only that religion is not allowed to be practiced. Some say that Ms.Geller provoked the attempted attack, and should be reprimanded for that. I say more power to her. I say shame Islam. Shame it over and over again. Show it for the scurrilous, hateful, dangerous thing that it is. If that's done enough, perhaps people will be less inclined to give it a pass or categorize it with other religions.
You can be held liable for speech that causes someone harm objectively and the harm has to be significant. that considered liable/slander is not an impediment on free speech at all. It is a tort not a law restricting your free speech. so the yelling "fire"! in a theater, is in no way an impediment on free speech. I can also say-you can't say certain things in my home. that as well, is not an impediment on free speech. also, free speech is a right, not a gift. This would assume, the govt bestows rights on us and is not consistent with the philosophy of the founding of the US.
No one has been "harmed" in any rational sense by these cartoons. Your govt is advocating that we don't have the balls to protect our citizens from assault when someone screams "offended!" that is a much bigger problem down the road for all citizens if we stand aside and do nothing. gutless, dangerous, and mindless
You either have freedom of speech, or you do not. If you draw a satiric cartoon (in bad taste or not-- I don't say that this one was), that does not entitle anyone to commit a physical assault on you. No amount of calling the cartoon "provocative", etc. can change that fact.
I was taught you never walk into a cave alone.. You never know what you may find. The problem is, we've been waking past the cave for so long that we think it's safe to keep walking past it.
We as Americans "allegedly" have the gift of free speech. With that gift comes responsibility. Just because you have freedom of speech does not mean you yell "FIRE!" in a full theatre!
Pamela Geller poked the bear and that always has consequences. Sometimes the bear needs to be poked so everyone will know its there. Geller had the courage to do so and thus sound the alarm clearly and loudly before the bear and its kin devour us all.
I often listen to Bosch with Amy Peikoff on her show "Don't Let It Go Unheard" on blog talk radio. He was raised in a Muslim family and knows of which he speaks.
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I suggest that we must honor and emulate such principled courage if we wish to deserve the sobriquet: American.
We ought to all thank Pam Geller, for lighting the way and blazing the trail. Fie on you, idiots who choose the illusion of safety over the preservation and enhancement of freedom.
Again, will the cowards who ransom their own and their children’s freedom for the vain expectation of safety ever realize that pandering to maniacs, far from getting them to like us, will ensure our receiving their greater contempt and telegraphing our weakness and timidity to them.
My late father fought in the invasion of Normandy and the Battle of the Bulge, not so craven cowards could sell the birthright he served for in exchange for “a mess of pottage.”
No one has been "harmed" in any rational sense by these cartoons. Your govt is advocating that we don't have the balls to protect our citizens from assault when someone screams "offended!" that is a much bigger problem down the road for all citizens if we stand aside and do nothing. gutless, dangerous, and mindless
If you draw a satiric cartoon (in bad taste or not--
I don't say that this one was), that does not entitle
anyone to commit a physical assault on you. No
amount of calling the cartoon "provocative", etc.
can change that fact.
My gut reaction to that?
Draw, baby, draw!
Off with your head!
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Like this guy!!