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I had not seen this before, nor knew the 100 and 75 watters had gone to the dust bin of history. Maybe stocking up on a couple hundred and putting them away may be worth it in 20 years or so...just like the old PCs and video games today.
And if you want 100w lighting, try a fixture that holds three or so 40w bulbs.
If I cared, I'd design, patent and offer a screw-in adapter that held three of four bulbs and screwed into a standard bulb socket, mainly for desk and floor-style lamps.
That way, in the winter, you get about the same supplemental heating for your home from the wattage consumed. Of course, my home is heated by natural gas, which just might be cheaper, in total cost, than partial heating supplement of incandescent bulbs... Have you done the math on that?
ps. New LED lamps can replace 60-100w incandescents and do NOT look glaring-white like many CFLs or early LEDs. I prefer the 24-2700K LEDs' warmer color. Oh, and they're less prone to vibration damage than CFLs OR incandescents, so I even put them in the lamps I use over my lathe... and range hood. and living room ambient lighting... and in the six-bulb chandelier over our kitchen table... replaced six 60w incandescents with 15w CFLs and then dumped them for 7W or so LEDs. 42<360... Actually tried 10w LEDs, but they were too bright.
"Nobody wants to give up anything. So the status will be quo for a long, long time.
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I don't want to give up 100 watt incandescent lightbulbs. Yet I'll be forced to once my stockpile runs out. The status is already no longer quo.
I was objecting to tax credits and rebates and discounts made possible by government force, not tax deductions. A tax credit is where the government gives one money, which it takes out of the pocket of taxpayers. Government mandated rebates and discounts either come out of the pocket of the seller of the product (which he will pass on to his other customers) or out of the taxes other people pay. Both of these are nothing less than redistribution.
"In fact, it's "us" early adopters who pay the HIGHER up-front costs of new and better technologies which help grow the production volumes of the industries which ENABLE the industries to drive the selling prices DOWN for "everybody.""
You wouldn't be an early adopter if it weren't for government coercion of the rest of us to buy into the Green religion. If left up to the free market, nobody would buy CFLs. When left up to the free market, solar power couldn't compete.
Any and all of the discounts, credits and bargain elements which were made available to me were available, and legally, to anyone who chose to do so. If you don't like the situation of "the common man" being taxed by the State to enable me to enjoy those discounts, the root cause problem is not me taking advantage of them, it's in the hands of the majority of voters and the people they elected who ENABLED all of those benefits.
Personally, I'd like to see ALL government subsidies eliminated so that the markets of all kinds can be "freer," but I've met VERY few people who seem to be willing to give up their home mortgage interest deduction as a "fair trade" for cutting subsidies to people and companies just so those beneficiaries can enjoy higher profits or monopoly pricing.
Mild, sugar, corn... what if the US lowered corporate taxes to be "competitive" with other countries? Maybe fewer companies would have to pay their financial and legal beagles as much money to hide and "offshore" their profits?
Nobody wants to give up anything. So the status will be quo for a long, long time.
Oh, and again, as an "early adopter," I paid upwards of $15 for some of the earliest screw-in fluorescents and CFLs, helping get that industry on the road (albeit in a tiny way). Just as I did with LED lighting in my home.
The good news, on my part, is that paying those exorbitant early market-clearing prices didn't impact my lifestyle very much at all, including the LEDs. When tubular LED lamps come down a bit more, ALL the fluorescents in my house will go. But I'm retired now, supported solely by SocSec and IRA withdrawals, so i'm a tiny bit more stingy.
Merry Christmas and happy holidays!
If you have children, may they be among the 15 million who die each year of starvation.
Oh… I guess they just didn't "innovate" fast enough. Too bad. At least we know from you that it wasn't a shortage of food that caused them to starve.
Enjoy your christmas dinner.
Try dealing with facts. And the facts are your proposition to force everyone to buy certain light bulbs is Tyranny and not good economics, but typical of people who believe they know how to run everyone's life
The LED problems for photo and video are completely solved. See: http://www.barbizon.com/portfolio/televi...
ESPN is using LEDs for all of their new build-outs and retrofitting as time permits.
CNN, CNBC, Fox, and bunches more are using them.
New studio construction with LEDs is taking advantage of huge cost savings. The LEDs generate less heat so the need air conditioning is less expensive and quieter. The lighting grid doesn't have to support as much weight. The wiring for the power requirements is much less. The controls are much more compact.
The television industry is switching to LEDs as quickly as one can imagine.
However they can be had for a good price. See at Costco: http://www.costco.com/Feit-Electric-100W...
Dimming is a serious problem with CFL.
LEDs are actually the best. They can be easily dimmed without changing color and they will last a very long time.
LEDs will come down in price.
Stem cell research has the potential to save lives, regrow limbs, fix spinal cord injuries, and a bunch of stuff we can't imagine yet.
But stem cell research has ben hindered by religious nuts.
I made my OWN rational and financial decisions based on the availability of solutions which were available to me in the marketplace. Are you saying that accepting a tax break or credit or "discount" on anything is stupid or "unfair" because refusing it might make the product or service cheaper for "everyone else"? You've got to be kidding me. "
A tax *credit*, or a government mandated discount, are taking money collected via taxation and putting it toward your solar home.
Note I didn't condemn you for what I regard as a frivolous waste of time and effort; that's your right. You need no more justification for it than that it amuses you.
I don't recall calling you stupid for taking money offered. But, if a store offered you a discount on a Rolex, what would your position be if he was able to give you the discount because he stole it? Or forced others at the point of a gun to give you part of the money to pay for it?
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Usually, the parts that fail are the bulb, the mounting hardware for the bulb, the pot - pretty much in that order. Typically the mounting hardware just keeps going through the heat/cool cycle until it just sort of gives up. When that happens, you can pick up new mounting hardware for a couple bucks. Pots are usually in the 50cent to $3 range, depending on where you get them. I probably have 3-4 of those old torchiere lamps that just keep going on forever.
I'm pretty surprised you got 10 years out of the bulbs!! Mine are usually good for couple of years - unless I buy the Harbor Freight Halogens… then the lifetime can be rated in hours. ;-O
Sustainability- a nice sounding word which has no meaning that can be used except in appealing for support for the new religion.
'Enslave' a strong word, not too strong as can be seen from the effects of legislation put up by the progressivistas.
By your "logic," as you just stated, I should continue to use "generally accepted solutions" if they're cheapest because using alternatives will make the cheap ones more expensive...
What is that? A "Common Good" goal? C'mon...
"Picking the pockets of rational people to subsidize my choice"???
I made my OWN rational and financial decisions based on the availability of solutions which were available to me in the marketplace. Are you saying that accepting a tax break or credit or "discount" on anything is stupid or "unfair" because refusing it might make the product or service cheaper for "everyone else"? You've got to be kidding me.
Yes, I was NOT "forced into the decision." I had the same opportunity decades ago when I lived in California. In fact, my home there would have been MUCH more suited to solar electric than my current home due to its location, climate and "way the roof pointed." But the payback would have been something like 20-30 years, and that's a crappy investment in my book.
The credits, rebates, discounts and whatever were put in place BY legislative actions and were available to ANYONE who chose to sign up for them. Nobody forced into or out of the program.
In fact, it's "us" early adopters who pay the HIGHER up-front costs of new and better technologies which help grow the production volumes of the industries which ENABLE the industries to drive the selling prices DOWN for "everybody." You should THANK ME for that. I'm voluntarily giving up my future retirement dollars to help make these new things available to YOU in the future (if you ever choose to buy them,) and to anyone else who so chooses.
I bought a $20k list-price system, fully installed, for a NET out-of-pocket cost of about $8k, which, again, made the payback period even shorter.
And the "legislative fiat" was put in place by legislators ELECTED BY THE GENERAL POPULATION... Trust me... I only voted once for anyone who might have been elected, and odds are I voted against the folks who enacted the legislation. Blame someone else, ok?
Do you deliberately avoid stores that have "SALE" signs in their windows?
It's the irrational people who vote bozos into office who enact these laws, stupid as you might think the voters OR the laws might be.
I was taking advantage of the Free Market Choices available to me. I'm not in business to subsidize anyone else, but if some moron(s) are that willing to subsidize ME, I'm a fool to not take advantage of what's offered.
And I don't feel "immoral" at ALL about it.
I'll give you one example that initially shocked me until I understood how the guy's decision was made...
A VERY conservative friend described his job. I said, "why the HELL do you need a job? You're retired and well-off!"
He replied, "Well, here's the deal: they give me full insurance benefits, a retirement plan, other financial benefits, and I don't have to work more than about 4 months of the year! And the pay is nice, too! Why should I be so stupid as to turn down such an offer? They hired ME under those agreements and enjoy the benefits of MY skills that I'm being paid for!"
But, H, here's the punch line... who's his employer with all those perqs and benefits for "so little work"? The local IRS office.
If I had skills marketable or useful to an employer like that, that would be me in the lobby filling out the application forms.
Merry Christmas.
Oh man... I just got an idea for a Portal/Obamacare poster...
I had to replace the rheostats on them a few years ago, picked up the replacements for 12 each at Ace Hardware.
I must have had them for 10 years before I had to replace a bulb, and I *couldn't* turn them both on full tilt... everything plastic in the room would have melted, and I'd have been blinded. lol
Hey, there's a thought... furnace is having trouble keeping the cold out... I may crank those babies up tonight...
I call it a wet dream because for me the events would be.
The Falkenberg Legion series takes place in a future where the U.S. and Soviet Union banned together and formed the "Co-Dominium". We've colonized dozens of worlds. Society on Earth is collapsing, with the big nuke war coming between the U.S. and Soviets.
The CoDominium navy, dedicated to preserving peace and the human species, had been trying to make the colonies stable and self-supporting for after Armageddon, but the personal interests of some corrupt CoDo Senators keep interfering.
The high Admiral of the fleet is forced to fire his best officer, and then sponsor him as a mercenary unit, to get the job done. This has earned him and the officer the animosity of ambitious and powerful Senator Bronson.
One of the successful colonies is Sparta, set up by academics, based upon the Hellenistic principles, and a dual monarchy. One must earn citizenship, but anyone can who tries, and those who don't retain protection for their rights.
Bronson wants to turn Sparta into one of his client states, and employs one of the most evil villains ever conceived in literature, Skida Tibideau of Belize.
Near the end of Prince of Sparta, the Admiral is dead, and Bronson has sent the CoDo Line Marines, the baddest asses in the universe, to bring Sparta to heel, and to capture the mercenaries' families and dependents.
The Spartans won't give them up, even when the mercenary in charge advises it.
And so the battle of Sparta city ensues. Rebel trash that had been formed into a viscious army by Tibideau attack at the same time. The main Spartan forces are still hundreds of miles away mopping up the last of the "official" rebel army, and all that are left are the Spartan auxillaries... citizens, to defend the city.
The Line Marines begin losing units.
For example, one Lieutenant and his sergeant are observing operations against Spartan snipers, and down the street comes a shopping cart pushed by half a dozen helots (rebels). In the shopping cart is a screaming Spartan citizen, tied to it with barbed wire, and burning alive.
The lieutenant turns off his radio and tells his men to clean house and rescue the Spartans. His sergeant's reply is that he hopes they *never* get that M-F radio working again.
At the Line Marine's headquarters, the 2nd in command is wrestling with his conscience; between his duty to his orders, and his sense of morality. When the king is killed trying to defend the flag of Sparta in front of his palace ("Spartans! The Helots have killed the king!")
He rebels. One of his men says, "Thank God", and at his questioning look says, "It was the helots, not us".
The Line Marines turn to save the Spartans, as the commanding colonel is relieved of his command.
(the story makes it clear that the colonel was obeying *politics* on Earth, rather than duty...)
Like I said... a wet dream. The actual case histories of decent armies turning against their governments are few and far between.
Except by making other, already inexpensive sources of energy more expensive.
Except by picking the pockets of rational people to subsidize your choice.
Nah, you weren't 'forced' to do it... the rest of us were 'forced' to accept it, by legislative fiat and media brainwashing.
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