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  • Posted by woodlema 9 years ago
    Seems to me that Burger King, McDonald's, and Wendy's, cigarettes, are far more lethal than guns ever will be.

    Only suicide by Firearm made the top ten when it came to death by gun.
    Assault (death by firearm) was number 14 but includes all gang shootings, pretty much any weapons assault.


    Bureau of Census year 2000.

    Type of Accident or Manner of Injury Total Deaths in 2000
    All External Causes of Mortality 151,268
    Deaths Due to Unintentional (Accidental) Injuries 97,900
    Nontransport Unintentional (Accidental) Injuries 51,151
    Transport Accidents 46,749
    Intentional self-harm 29,350
    Other and unspecified land transport accidents 16,850
    Assault 16,765
    Intentional self-harm by firearm 16,586
    Other and unspecified person 15,808
    Car occupant 14,813
    Falls 13,322
    Accidental poisoning by and exposure to noxious substances 12,757
    Assault by firearm 10,801
    Accidental exposure to other and unspecified factors and sequelae 7,576
    Other and unspecified fall 7,310
    Narcotics and psychodysleptics [hallucinogens] n.e.c. 6,139
    Pedestrian 5,870
    Intentional self-harm by hanging, strangulation, and suffocation 5,688
    Other accidental threats to breathing 5,648
    Intentional self-poisoning 4,859
    Other and unspecified drugs medicaments and biologicals 4,693
    Other and unspecified means and sequelae 4,159
    Event of undetermined intent 3,819
    Accidental drowning and submersion 3,482
    Exposure to smoke, fire and flames 3,377
    Occupant of pick-up truck or van 3,268
    Inhalation and ingestion of other objects causing obstruction of respiratory tract 3,187
    Complications of medical and surgical care and sequelae 3,059
    Uncontrolled fire in building or structure 2,776

    Now to place their unreasonable emotional response to guns here is the CDC statistics on deaths 2013
    http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-...


    •Heart disease: 611,105
    •Cancer: 584,881
    •Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 149,205
    •Accidents (unintentional injuries): 130,557
    •Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 128,978
    •Alzheimer's disease: 84,767
    •Diabetes: 75,578
    •Influenza and Pneumonia: 56,979
    •Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 47,112
    •Intentional self-harm (suicide): 41,149
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    • Posted by NealS 9 years ago
      I think you might have missed one of the stats. What about deaths or injuries by rifles with over a 10 round magazine? Is there a statistic on that? Perhaps a ban on magazines over 10 rounds might reduce the number of suicides by rifle? Perhaps not.

      Or perhaps stats on lives taken by 20 or 50 round magazines (not including combat in a war zone). Would they feel safer with 5 round magazines. Could we save lives in war by going back to single shot weapons? Will the bomb (a big one) ever be a single shot weapon? And what about lives saved by civilians with guns? Or robberies, rapes, muggings, injuries prevented by civilians with guns? How many mothers and/or fathers died because someone didn’t have a gun? I always think about Dr. Suzanna Hupp’s testimony before Congress. She tried to adhere to a stupid law and look what it cost her.

      In the article it said, “If a ban …(blah, blah, blah)….. reduces the perceived risk …..…..and makes the public feel safer as a result, that’s a substantial benefit.” WHAT? WHAT? Are you kidding me? A benefit to who, not to me? It’s only a substantial benefit to a few that drank your Kool-Aid.. Who are “they” to tell me how I‘d feel about their stupid laws? Perhaps “they” would really feel safe, if their body guards only carried single shot devices.

      How about a ban on heart disease or cancer? Fortunately I have not had to use a gun to prevent anything yet, if you don't count my "tour" in Vietnam. In fact, as I might derive from the article, perhaps I wouldn’t have had to go to Vietnam if we didn’t have guns with magazines. Our leaders might have been able to arm wrestle for a solution to the problem instead.

      How safe do you feel when you drive? If there were smaller and much slower cars would you not feel much safer? Perhaps we should start with big cars and let the gun thing work itself out. Of course my Corvette will be grandfathered, won’t it? It’s really not very big, but it’s fast, at least that what they tell me. And maybe they could ban soda over 16 ounces to make us all feel safer. If they ban magazines over 10 rounds, 5 rounds will be next, and soon you’ll be doing target practice with a single round magazine. Think about that.
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      • Posted by kevinw 9 years ago
        Nice rant. :)

        But I think your Corvette is considered high capacity. Just sayin.
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        • Posted by NealS 9 years ago
          High capacity, heck it's only got the little engine, only 424 horsepower. I can't imagine why anyone would want anything more powerful. My wife screamed the first time I tried to see what it might do. Starting at 70 mph I floored it (for about three seconds) I thought it might take to flight (scared me too) so I backed off. Yet I do not deny any one the right to have more horses because it might "make the public feel safer, and that's a substantial benefit". And yes, I do enjoy ranting quite a bit these days, that's what a Corvette and retirement does to an old person, allows you to rant.
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          • Posted by kevinw 9 years ago
            Yeah, with "only" 424 horsepower I might only last about 3 seconds as well. (innuendo intended) But I'd still like to try out a 700HP Challenger Hellcat just for the fun of it. To hell with the public's feelings. Eh?
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      • Posted by woodlema 9 years ago
        My point exactly.

        If you take all the people killed in the world by guns including war period, then look at all the people killed globally by, cars heart disease and other ways, the total by guns does not even rate on the charts.

        Their emotional arguments are irrational and devoid of logic, facts or any evidence.

        The FBI has statistics by weapon type...
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years ago
    yes, this touchy-feely stuff pervades the logic of
    the left -- like their affinity for compassionate fairness....
    I can be compassionate and fair when I give the local
    food kitchen (free food for the homeless) a thousand
    dollars, but it doesn't count, because I voted for
    Reagan. . doesn't feel right to them. . it turns their
    stomach, cuz I don't have the right flavor of
    compassion. -- j
    .
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    • Posted by Mamaemma 9 years ago
      And where is the compassion and fairness for those of us who haven taken responsibility for ourselves and worked hard all our lives?
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      • Posted by johnpe1 9 years ago
        compassion, like everything else, is political. . . their
        goal is power, so compassion is aimed at those who
        will either vote for them, or give them money. . imho. -- j
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      • Posted by kevinw 9 years ago
        The dispensing of compassion is based on need, of course. And you seem to have had more than your fair share so you don't need anymore. Unless you're going to go into manufacturing solar panels. Then there will be plenty of "compassion" to go around.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years ago
    But of course. To a progressive ideologue, feelings are all that matters.

    To those of us with any brains, of course, the absurdity in this is obvious.
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  • Posted by waytodude 9 years ago
    My assault weapon of choice is my ball bat that will assault one. I use my guns for defense and hunting its our constitutional right. A judge or a group of judges cannot take that away they may say they can. But try. Their are millions of us out here who will have the last say.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years ago
    Semi-automatics are now assault weapons? What's next Red Ryder's lever action? Or worse call in the ATF and re-enact Waco?

    If there ever was a reason for State Militia's and the Second Amendment you are seeing it now.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 9 years ago
    Another example of how this country is rolling down
    toward dictatorship. What use is it to have a Cons-
    titution if the people whose job it is to administer
    and interpret it just do anything they want, and pre-
    tend that it doesn't say what it really does say?

    Leonard Peikoff in "The Ominous Parallels"
    said that the Constitution could not stop the
    trend if its animating principle collapsed.
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  • Posted by NealS 9 years ago
    "Unfortunately, Manion’s brain was overruled by the “feelings” of his fellow appellate judges, Frank Easterbrook and Ann Claire Williams. - " Hmmm, I see a need to retire some judges.

    First it was automatic weapons, and now it's magazines over 10 rounds. If they pass this the next thing will be magazines over 5 rounds, and soon you'll be trying to target shoot with a One-Round-Magazine. Can you imagine that? Of course mine will be grandfathered, won't they?
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