What Did Galt Say To Wyatt To Convince Him?

Posted by khalling 9 years, 1 month ago to Philosophy
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I have a post with many interesting threads but I am particularly interested in the one linked above. Why shrug?
I think the commenters (please read the whole thread I linked to the last comment) all touch on valid reasons. I see 4, and I think there is integration:

1. some of us are enamored with the idea of building a perfect world/society. 2. some of us see the power of removing our productivity from a bad society/world. 3.You actively destroy to hasten an end to a bad society/world. 4.you leave to preserve yourself

Let's go back to the conversation between Galt and Ellis Wyatt. Remember we are with Dagny-we have no idea what Galt said to be persuasive. Tell me what that conversation was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p59EZkBY...

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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    great points. Francisco had a place to go when he blew up those mines. But was he tortured when he turned Dagny down for a loan? He explained things well to Hank and convinced Hank (over Galt).
    For us, there was some ease. 1. we didn't have to have a huge infrastructure in order to maintain a livelihood 2. our children were grown
    I think we fall mostly into 4 but also 2. at any rate, pragmatically, we killed a few birds. We have time now to articulate ideas to people who are willing to learn and want clarity as they see their country turn into something they were not born into. We may just be Sarah Conners(I love terminator) and it will be our children who turn the tide.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 9 years, 1 month ago
    I think the key question is whether you have somewhere to go. If there was a place where producers could go and build a society where they could enjoy the fruits of their labor without others taking it from them by force, many of us would go there -- even if it meant rebuilding (4).

    But so far there isn't. So you are left with either shrugging and no longer producing since others will take the product of your labor (2) or continuing to produce and fighting to change the world you live in (1).

    I find (3) the least attractive -- to hasten the end of a bad society without a plan to build a better one is just to be come a destroyer, not a producer. Destruction is fine -- if it has a purpose.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 1 month ago
    Galt to Wyatt: "I saw you on the news a while back. Do you think that the James Taggarts and Wesley Mouches of the world are worthy of your time and effort? If not, I would like to show you a place where you can find all the shale oil that you want to sell to people worthy of trading value for value with.
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  • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 1 month ago
    I think one of the interesting things that thinking seriously about gulching is that if forces you to think about what you really want out of life.
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