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The Promotion of a Psychotic Break from Reality

Posted by Snoogoo 6 years, 5 months ago to Education
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There is a great discussion going on about the Constitution and a lot of good comments regarding the study of the history that led up to the creation of the document. I saw this article and it made me throw up in my mouth a bit. I love Game of Thrones and have read all of the books, but using a FANTASY novel to teach about actual history?

"It represents aspects of the Middle Ages much more realistically than other media depictions that purport to be more accurate," co-professor Valerie Garver said.

So zombies.dragons, and magic spells are more realistic depictions of what happened in the Middle Ages? I am posting this because I see it for what it is. Evidence that there is a strong agenda out there that is interested in distorting reality to make impressionable minds question their own reality, even their own sanity. This is a well-known mind control mechanism. This is 1984, getting tortured until you admit 2 plus 2 does not equal 4! Reading this is almost as bad as having your face eaten by rats.
SOURCE URL: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/04/17/us-university-offering-honors-course-on-hbo-series-game-thrones/


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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 5 months ago
    The proper term is the Dark Ages. Middle Ages is far too bland. It was a horrible time in history. Mel Brooks and Monty Python found humor in it because the times were so extreme in human misery, that they actually became funny. Not so funny if you were not royalty. Your life, from birth to death (at an early age) was filled with filth, hunger, and lack of hope. It was the premier example of what happened when freedom for the people was non-existent. Paraphrasing Monty Python:
    How do you know they're royalty?
    They're not all covered in shit like us, are they?
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    • Posted by 6 years, 5 months ago
      Well the Magna Carta came about in the middle ages at least. I know you are not talking about this but the part that makes me flip out is that Game of Thrones is not about the middle ages OR the dark ages. It is about a planet of people and things that are the product of pure imagination, it has nothing to do with either which is the part that makes my skin crawl.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years, 5 months ago
    Generational differences. Up until the last decade or so, the ideological rule used to be "You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts." With the almost surreal obsession on fantasy and online alternate worlds, the Millennials seem to be shifting to "You're entitled to your own opinion AND your own facts."

    I have actually had young people tell me "but those are YOUR facts," when discussing the reality of economics, for instance. They've been confused about what even constitutes a fact, or evidence, and would rather fall back on the seductive fantasies of utopian visions of societies. That is not by accident, but a result of a purposeful distortion of reality presented by the spinmasters of the political establishment.
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    • Posted by BeenThere 6 years, 5 months ago
      "Perception is reality." Last year someone made that statement to a small group of us gathered socially, to which I immediately responded, "No, reality is reality and one's perception of it better damned well be accurate."

      Silence followed..............probably because none had a clue concerning epistemology.
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      • Posted by plusaf 6 years, 5 months ago
        I could offer that Perception is Reality after it goes through one's personal filters...

        A manager once said that my interpersonal problems at work were caused by others' perceptions of me, and that I should work to change those perceptions.

        It took me some days or weeks to go back to him and suggest that if Perceptions are Reality, shouldn't people indulge in "Reality Checks" too?

        He didn't get it.
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        • Posted by BeenThere 6 years, 5 months ago
          Yes, part of reason is to be aware of one's "personal filters", striving for objectivity......as you say "Reality Checks"...............sort of giving one's subjectivity an objective "check up"........which pretty much lasts a lifetime.

          "He didn't get it." They seldom do..............

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  • Posted by $ ObjectiveAnalyst 6 years, 5 months ago
    Hello Snoogoo,
    Very interesting. Yes we are clearly falling into the abyss. Honors courses on fictional TV shows filled with mysticism...
    "War is Peace.
    Freedom is slavery.
    Ignorance is Strength." Orwell

    Regards,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by Mamaemma 6 years, 5 months ago
    Really good title to your post, Snoogoo. Personally, I think a lot of our culture is psychotic at this point- certainly divorced from reality.
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 6 years, 5 months ago
    “We’re going to have to make sacrifices, we’re going to have to change our conversation, we’re going to have to change our traditions, our history and we’re going to have to move to a different place.”

    Michele Obama 2008 campaign speech

    Re-write history, wait a few generations and no one will ever know what is or was reality. Control the past and you control the future.
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    • Posted by freedomforall 6 years, 5 months ago
      The sooner she moves to that different place, the sooner the culture in this place recovers from her perversions.
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      • Posted by j_IR1776wg 6 years, 5 months ago
        ffa I'd like to smile in agreement with you. I just have this nagging fear that the disease she suffers from commonly known as "We'll tell you what reality is sucka!" has infected the entire population in Washington D.C. So if and when she and BO leave the WH, the disease will continue and worsen.
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    • Posted by DanShu 6 years, 5 months ago
      I was thinking the same thing regarding Moochele's Re-writing History statement. I strongly suspect we will be seeing it coming with Common Core.
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      • Posted by j_IR1776wg 6 years, 5 months ago
        The Progressives have had the school system in their hip pocket for the last 110 years or so. I saw the results of a poll recently that found the overwhelming majority of young people didn't know who the current Vice President is.
        How can we expect them to know anything about Europe 700 years ago?
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  • Posted by MinorLiberator 6 years, 5 months ago
    I certainly hope this thread has "legs". It deserves it...some much intellectual destruction is going on, as it probably always has, in what those in what I would term as the middle or lower tiers of the "pyramid of ability", or in this case, intelligence, are exposed to.

    Your post has one ridiculous quote about "accuracy". Oh, gag me with...

    I've only watched the show once or twice, but I seem to recall various mythical "creatures" flitting about. Not to mention (both as an economist and a minor historian, oh, and rational) the utter misrepresentation of the degree of wealth and, yes, the "intelligence", as portrayed, of the "protagonists". In the Middle Ages?

    But no matter, and here's my extracted quote to prove it:

    "It stands out because it comments on the human condition in a way that seems real to people."

    Huh? "seems real"? I think if there were a prize for compressing an untrue philosophical axiom into the fewest words possible, those two have to win hands down.

    The best I can come up with is: A Seems A.

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    • Posted by 6 years, 5 months ago
      "A Seems A" yes agreed, just the sound of that can make one shudder in terror. Those on the lower tiers of the pyramid of ability, perhaps not all, but many tend to seek control this way, as a means of flipping the poles of reality that puts them on top. I need to re-read this part of AS but I am somehow correlating this realization of a broken reality to Cheryl's suicide.

      On another note, even a cursory study of Medieval European history is way more dramatic and crazy than anything you will find in Game of Thrones. The author loosely based some of the plot and character names on actual history (Stark = York, Lannister = Lancaster), but it is a fantasy novel created for entertainment! There are plenty of primary sources available from that period to study. Universities are really whoring themselves out for money by making moves like this. But I guess that is nothing new.
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      • Posted by MinorLiberator 6 years, 5 months ago
        Ever read Stephen Donaldson? Pure fantasy, but compelling, and, ultimately, about right and wrong.

        I sometimes think, no, I do think, that any discussion of objective "right and wrong" in the real world was verboten at least as early as the 60's, and probably before, certainly in academia, already seeping into the media, and then to the young.

        So its only outlet became...fantasy...Lord of the Rings etc...

        I still remember going to see a midnight debut of "Star Wars" in 1977 in Manhattan...after a decade of "navel-gazing, hip, counter-culture" films like MASH, Joe, Nashville...need I go on?

        And thinking, as always "post-Atlas"..."maybe we have a chance...this is not just a movie, but a change in the way people think, there a actually bad guys and good guys"...

        Damn, too optimistic there...

        Although, coming this Spring...
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        • Posted by BeenThere 6 years, 5 months ago
          "...any discussion of objective "right and wrong" in the real world was verboten at least as early as the 60's, and probably before,..."

          Yes, it existed in the 50's...............my college, though excellent and reality based, instructed "right and wrong" in humanities courses supposedly studying philosophy by teaching various religions..........I was not awakened until AS/AR (1966) that philosophy had long ago been hi-jacked by religion..........so I learned the basics of the actual science of philosophy and started my journey in Objectivism........and eventually reached full understanding of how absolutely accurate it is................as for a sufficient number of others to become aware and Objectivism to begin to become the predominant philosophy........"fasten your seat belts, it going to be a long, bumpy ride"........................but the work is being done and inroads are being made..............
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        • Posted by 6 years, 5 months ago
          I have not, but yes, the trend seems to be 'the gray area', nothing is black and white, or anything can be justified regardless or morality. Its not an accident.
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  • Posted by samrigel 6 years, 5 months ago
    Some people as in the Liberal Progressives, Communists, Socialist etc all try to live in the world the WANT and not the world they have. So facts are irrelevant and Lies, distortions and hallucinations are all used in the attempt to get to the unicorns and rainbows. Now if you will excuse me I must feed my unicorn! ;-)
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  • Posted by bsmith51 6 years, 5 months ago
    We live at the cusp of the Age of Feelings (Use the Force, Luke; search your feelings). Accordingly, what does objective reality have to do with anything?
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 6 years, 5 months ago
    This break with reality was being promoted when our daughter was in high school in the late 1990s. Mysticism was promoted when academics should have been in action. The idea of no right or wrong and everyone's ideas being just as valid as theirs was the game of the day. The word "I" was dirty. It was "We" or "Team"that was good. Independent thought was not welcome nor tolerated. Witchcraft was explored and encouraged. No wonder the current parents have not grasp on what their children should be learning. The door was opened to Common Core.
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    • Posted by bsmith51 6 years, 5 months ago
      The door was opened, I believe, around 1992. At an "educational" meeting for parents re the new Outcome Based Education, we were told by the school district's representative that "...it is wrong and unfair to pin a child down to only one right answer on a math problem."
      Parents could only gasp, but one asked her to give us an example. In doing so, she cited a semantics issue to a child's understanding of a math problem. She was clearly a dolt. .
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      • Posted by $ Stormi 6 years, 5 months ago
        The governor's school in Ark. was early on into Outcome Based Ed. We began fighting it in Ohio around the time you stated.Those off-base teachings were complicit in the Columbine tragedy. Those teachings have led to students having a break with reason and reality, and turned them toard the make believe world of mysticism. Academics ended and indoctrination picked up the pace. Common Core just finishes the job.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 5 months ago
    the Game of Thrones has a point in that, while zombies and dragons, etc. don't exist, the people believed in them as well as magic, and Satan, etc.
    "The Middle Ages were an era of mysticism, ruled by blind faith and blind obedience to the dogma that faith is superior to reason." -- Ayn Rand
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