Terrorist Training at the Ivy League???

Posted by AmericanGreatness 10 years, 3 months ago to Politics
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This is what $50,000 a year in tuition alone buys...


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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    ruling class. it's going to be worse. All of these programs Obama put into place for college grads to do "service" out of college, came with an implicit promise that further down the road participation in those programs would give them an advantage in applying for govt jobs. Even if the progs are not in charge of the WH and the legislative branches-all those agencies are filled with them and they will keep that promise. ugh
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 3 months ago
    What I think shouldn't be overlooked is the number of "Ivy League" graduates now infesting the halls of government.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I saw this in the Gulch yesterday also in my email, but this ain't the same thread.
    In the other, I simply commented: "Nuts!".
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  • Posted by wiggys 10 years, 3 months ago
    there is nothing that happens from the ivy league schools that is surprising especially when they do things that are anti what used to be america. and that is why when we have a president and there have been several have policies and actions that are anti america as it used to be.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It is used because America wasn't within reach of the Nazis in WW2, so most of the gold was shipped to NY for safekeeping. Also America wasn't demolished by Hilter, so we had a massive advantage over all our competition after the war. They needed us to rebuild so we kept their gold and that helped us dictate what currency would be used. However, we lost the advantage and Nixon had to end the gold standard because the US was inflating the currency and could not afford to keep paying out gold for paper. The only thing that has saved the dollar for the past 40 years is that the Arab (and all other) producers continued to accept only dollars for oil.
    We (you and I and everyone in the Gulch) may be good guys, but our government stopped that moral practice a long time ago. thats why there is an income tax and a federal reserve and an NSA spying on all of us. They are not the good guys. We have to live it and work for it and fight for it if America is to be the source of liberty again.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There's a reason the dollar is used. It's the currency of prosperity, as English is its language.

    And, it should remain that way... we're the good guys. The current White House occupant not withstanding, America is still the last be hope for freedom and liberty in the world.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Its the currency paid for the oil, not the oil itself. The dollar has been the only currency accepted for payment of oil for decades. That monopoly was being challenged by Saddam Hussein. It is now being challenged by China, Russia, Brazil, South Africa, India.
    The ancient WMDs were nothing but a convenient excuse to invade. There was no evidence of terrorists being armed by Saddam Hussein, nor any rational Iraq connection to 9/11.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agree with you on every point, save the "social conservative".

    The Founding Fathers wrote extensively (and I believe correctly), that the framework they created for us depended heavily (owing its structural integrity) on the morality of the citizens. The maintenance of Judeo-Christian values on which our rights and law are based is mission critical.

    This is not antithetical to liberty and personal freedom, it's essential to it.

    As an intellectual curiosity, what tenant of social conservatism do you think should be jettisoned?
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  • Posted by MinorLiberator 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree on a much needed change in GOP leadership. Undecided on Cruz. Waiting on the others. But the change has to be oriented towards restoring individual rights, The Constitution etc. Please leave "social conservative" ideas out of it.

    Also agree that DHS and TSA etc. are useless. I hate the term "racial profiling", I really like yours.

    And as a student of history and especially WWII, and one who thinks Patton should have gone all the way to Moscow, my only disagreement with your final point is that Bush Sr. should have implemented what you suggest the first time around. It worked out well in Germany and Japan, and maybe we would have avoided 9/11. Of course the Middle East would have been more complicated than a completely vanquished Germany and Japan, but could it by any stretch of the imagination have turned out worse than the mess we face now?
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  • Posted by 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The danger was WMD's being sold/given to terrorists that had declared war on America and the west generally. That war is still going.

    If we went there for oil, why didn't we take it? Frankly, we should have taken an amount sufficient to cover the cost of the war, but instead we allowed the Iraqis to keep their resource.

    Just for the sake of the argument, though, free flow of oil at market prices is absolutely a reason to go to war. Oil is the fuel that runs the engine of the world, which is why we should jettison the Earth Day crowd and develop all the oil and natural gas resources we have in N America.

    All that said, we DID NOT go to war in Iraq for oil... that dog won't hunt.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Disagree. We and Iraq and the world would all be better off without any invasion. It was all just an excuse for war and less liberty at home. Iraq had had those supposed WMDs for many years and they were no danger to any American, Brit, Frenchman, Aussie, Turk, etc etc. The danger was an oil market freely traded in non-dollar currency, and that is no reason for invasion.
    This is why the anti-federalists didn't want a standing army, and they were right.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm not fan of GOP leadership and would love to see a President Cruz.

    I also agree that creating an entirely new DHS was absurd and only increased bureaucracy. The solution was to follow El Al's lead. It's not racial profiling, it's suspect description.

    That said, in wake of 9/11, when the entire world thought Iraq had (and turns out did) have WMD's, crushing them was non-negotiable. The problem is, we didn't go far enough. We should have built the largest military base ever constructed in the middle of the country and put the entire Middle East on notice... you had an opportunity to get your crap together and you proved incapable. Now we're here to stay to make you do it.

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  • Posted by MinorLiberator 10 years, 3 months ago
    I saw this video yesterday, and it was also in my "post this" bin.

    The phrase from history that came to mind when I watched it was "The Banality of Evil". The guy in the video is so clueless that he almost seems harmless, but he's not. He seemed to truly not comprehend what an ISIS "freedom fighter" was, and what a little "training camp" would mean. And the undercover journo also mentioned Hamas. Not that not knowing ISIS is excusable, but Hamas has been around for a long, long time. What planet has this guy been on? I guess the planet Ithaca.

    And I've seen a lot of O'Keefe's.other work. Brilliant, courageous and a hero in my book, too..
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  • Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    ...there wouldn't have been an invasion of Iraq, there would have been arrests of the neo-cons who planned 9/11.
    .. there would have been successful resistance to any suggestion that the Bill of Rights could be optional, and there would be no "patriot act" and no Homeland Security and no jack booted thugs molesting grandmothers and preteens in airports.
    The GOP IS THE ENEMY.
    (and so are the Dems.)
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  • Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 3 months ago
    Where did you think the neo-cons were trained?
    Where did you think the liberal DemReps were trained?
    This is about the politically-connected, holier-than-thou Ivy Leaguers vs the sovereignty and liberty of every individual.
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