This is what a REAL constitutionalist sounds like

Posted by Non_mooching_artist 11 years, 5 months ago to Politics
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This is a rousing article for any who feel like our country is in its death throes. This man ought to run on a ticket with Dr. Ben Carson. That would turn the RINOS on their heads and show who is really for the federalist government our constitution represents. And that our founders put their lives and fortunes on the line for.


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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    When's the last time you were in Europe? I would say that in fact, they have lost all nationality.
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  • Posted by iamA2u 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    ouch! I am so in awe of your arguments. I can see why there are no States anymore in the US with free migration and no real consequences. oh wait there are states and they do function! I also see why the European nations have disappeared now that movement in between them has no real consequences either.

    and you should search YouTube for Milton Friedman talking about immigration, and why, absent the welfare state, free immigration would be the best policy. but I presume you're quite a bit smarter than Milton Friedman.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You seem to think that all laws are the same. I do not. I do believe that the only way to define a nation is to have mechanisms to control migration. In the past this was accomplished more by the difficulty of migration and the lack of migratory inclination. That is no longer the case. If the borders allow free movement with no restriction nor consequence, then there is no nation. And to say that that is stupid merely points out how ignorant you really are.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Fine, as long as they do so legally. Welcome them and their ideas! Hooray. But my family came here with their ideas, but also legally. And they loved it. And made something of themselves.
    Now to your saying that all the characters in AS broke the law. Yes. They did. Because their ideas and life's work were getting bludgeoned by moochers who wanted a free ride, and looters who wanted something they hadn't earned. Illegal immigrants didn't play into the picture.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree with enforcing the immigration laws, but your language suggests there is a limited number of jobs and not enough to go around, so we must ration them to our citizens. In reality, jobs are just people finding someone's need and fulfilling it for money. There's a potentially infinite number of jobs.
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  • Posted by iamA2u 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The US is an idea and anyone who comes here who wants to share that idea should be welcomed with open arms and open borders, and if they're willing to work harder and add more value than other people, they should get the jobs, and we should cheer them on - that's Objectivism.
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  • Posted by iamA2u 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Which is where you are in terrible error. You are confused that illegal is wrong. the heroes in Atlas Shrugged all broke the law, because the objective of the moochers is to make us all break the law by doing what is right, and thereby they gain control of us using the force of the government. Do you really think that ObamaCare is a good law that people shouldn't break if we could? Everyone in Atlas Shrugged who quit their jobs, after 10-289 made them slaves, were law breakers, and you think therefore we should pack them off into prison because they are "illegals"?

    And "Open boarders = no nation" may take the prize for being the stupidest thing I've seen on this website. That is one of those stupid things the Tea Party believes. You are saying that prior to the 1920's we weren't a nation, and even more, a nation with an already distinctive flair for liberty and individuality?

    The US is an idea and anyone who comes here who wants to share that idea should be welcomed with open arms and open borders, and if they're willing to work harder and add more value than other people and they should get the jobs - that's Objectivism.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think that you paint the Tea Party with too broad a brush. I don't think that many of them have seen a good R in quite a long time, and the last good R president was RR. I think that is a common concurrence across most TP groups that I've had contact with.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Who says that we need to reconcile anything? This site is about those who are supportive of the movies, not an Objectivist conclave.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have a problem with any illegal, as whether they are getting government handouts or not, they are here illegally, and if working, are occupying a job that could be held by a legal resident/citizen.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have no problem with people immigrating LEGALLY. What I find objectionable is paying for the freebies for ILLEGALS. They are taking jobs away from those who are here legally, or are already US citizens by birth.
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  • Posted by iamA2u 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Completely consistent. My statements are: Immigration of anyone wishing to be a value added member of society should not be illegal, what is more is that if we can restrict "rights" to freebies like income, healthcare, etc., then we should have a completely open border. Tea Party wants a completely "secure" border and wants to deny citizenship to even hard working, productive illegals. Both are anti-objectvist policies.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Make up your mind. Illegals are feeding off the freebies in this country...how is THAT good for a free society?
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hmm I think the TEA party would agree with what you just said. You might want to rectify that.
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  • Posted by iamA2u 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I guess we have a lot of protectionist Tea Party members on this site. I hope you reconcile those beliefs with Objectivism; I just can't see how.
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  • Posted by susan042462 11 years, 5 months ago
    I love Dryer, always have. Maybe it's time we put another actor in the White House. The last one did a hell of a job.
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  • Posted by mgenss 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have always thought all laws, rules and regulations should have a sundowner clause of a very short duration if not used for some time like blue laws.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He wasn't screaming anything. He was speaking out against the current regime's abuse of power. Coming from an actor, out of Hollywood, is cause for celebration. Religion? What are you talking about?
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  • Posted by rlewellen 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I live here I am trying to find a job here, I can't find a job, it's math. The constitution provides a means for bills to be signed into law. The laws are supposed to be enforced.
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    Posted by iamA2u 11 years, 5 months ago
    I found it to be very poor article. No specifics. And the anti-immigration sentiment in the tea party has NO basis in constitutionality, those folks are just screaming protectionists. Also, I would think for most objectivists the many religious aspects of the Tea Party are quite objectionable, such controlling tendencies have zero room in a free society.
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