Reason & Rights: Values Come From "Evaluation"

Posted by Elliot 11 years, 7 months ago to Philosophy
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My new blog post based on Ayn Rand's discussion on "values" and "teleological measurement" as a means of measurement for concepts of consciousness. Love to know your thoughts!
SOURCE URL: http://reasonandrights.blogspot.com/2012/09/values-come-from-evaluation.html


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  • Posted by WesleyMooch 11 years, 7 months ago
    A single sentence from Rand's magnum opus, Atlas Shrugged, "A is A," is the very basis of Objectivism, and is not license to a generation of lesser lights to abuse it. "Values come from Evaluation" is an utterance Rand would never have made. It's lazy, stupid and meaningless.
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    • Posted by 11 years, 7 months ago
      The title of the blog post is MY title, not Rand's. I'm not certain I grasp what your complaint is about here, nor why you feel it necessary to engage in name calling.

      Any philosophy has two cornerstones: its metaphysics (fundamental view of reality) and its epistemology (its theory of knowledge, particularly its theory of concepts). This blog post is partially based on Rand's writings in "Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology", which I will now quote, pertaining specifically to values:

      "A moral code is a set of abstract principles; to practice it, an individual must translate it to the appropriate concretes - HE MUST CHOOSE the particular goals and VALUES WHICH HE IS TO PURSUE." (emphasis mine)

      Is it really a big leap from what she describes above to the word "evaluation"? Are you not, in fact, EVALUATING when you are "choosing the particular goals and values" you are to pursue?

      I quote further: "This requires that he define his particular hierarchy of values, in the order of their importance, and that he act accordingly."

      I'm not certain where your criticism is coming from; it seems to me Rand is making the same point that I'm making, so unless you think she was being "lazy, stupid and meaningless" when she wrote it, I think you're off track. She DID write other things besides "Atlas Shrugged", you know, including actual non-fiction philosophical works - perhaps you should crack one open.

      One more thing: "Atlas Shrugged" is indeed Rand's opus, but no philosophy is based on "a single sentence".
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    • Posted by JeanPaulZodeaux 11 years, 7 months ago
      "A is A" is a derivation of Aristotle's assertion that " the fact that a thing is itself" from Metaphysics Book VII Part 17. It was Aristotle who offered the first logical presentation of the Law of Identity. Aristotle never said "A is A" but this does not make Rand "lazy, stupid, and meaningless".
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      • Posted by WesleyMooch 11 years, 7 months ago
        Wwwwwow. Has my reply been misinterpreted! What I evidently failed to convey was that Rand's sentence from John Galt's speech, "A is A," was in fact the cornerstone of Objectivism, whereas on the other hand, "Values Come from Evaluation" was a vapid tautology. I recommend reviewing Galt's speech.
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        • Posted by JeanPaulZodeaux 11 years, 7 months ago
          Tautology is always true. What is true may be dull for some, or lack the certain spice they prefer, but this is simply a matter of taste.

          I assure you that your "lazy, stupid, and meaningless" taunt was not misinterpreted.

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  • Posted by $ jmlesniewski 11 years, 7 months ago
    I think "family values" is often a confusion of language. "Family" in that case is a descriptor. It means the type of value. Thus, it can either have two meanings:

    1. "Family" is the group holding the values. Which the author of this blog correctly identifies as impossible. Groups can't hold values. They can only share them.

    2. "Family" is the topic which the values concern. IE, how does an individual value his siblings, parents, children, etc?
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