I hope so too except I read that the EPA has banned coal. Maybe some plastic made to look like coal:-)

I'm with you. She might be the next Dagny.

Conservative is OK, depending on what you mean by it. If you mean that you value your property and your right to own it, good. If you mean that you think government should have a very limited role in our lives, even better. If you mean that I should be able to make decisions for myself and my business, excellent. But if you mean that an idea is good because it is an old idea, much like the "progressives" like an idea simply because it is new, then not so good. An idea should be examined and classified as good or bad because of its intrinsic merit (keeping in mind the proper context, or course), not because of whether it was dreamed up in ancient times or in modern times. So if you are a conservative, and you are OK, and you are posting on this site, you likely have all the best reasons going for you.

Then the security guard lied and should be held accountable. Either way it is a sad story and I am glad to hear that the girl is getting support elsewhere.

Your video example demonstrates the fact through Karen’s comments regarding Jane’s actions, that all women do not share the same views or preferences. You need to find a new circle of friends. You need to find a Karen. One cannot be a pushover or overbearing. The balance must be struck. There are users on both sides. One cannot act the part one must be the part. If a woman does not appreciate a nice guy, she is not the woman you want. As Karen points out there are normal people and then there are the users; in this case she is largely speaking of extreme feminists. One thing: Women do not find desperation attractive, and do find attractive, men who other women find attractive. Being seen with other women piques there interest… if you know what I mean. Let’s say you are attending a party and there is a woman you are interested in. Do not hover over her or smother her. Be polite but find the women at the party who you may not be interested in but enjoy their company. If you are able to make them smile and enjoy your company, other women will notice. You need not be Don Juan, just be upbeat and humorous. Sometimes what you are looking for is right under your nose, but you are not seeing them because you are focused on someone else.
I met my wife (of over thirty happy years) and asked her out after a few hours of being nice to her best friend. Her friend wanted me, and I was polite and enjoyed the attention, but it was my wife that wanted what her girlfriend was going after, but she was too shy. And it was I who thought her girlfriend was too aggressive, too desperate. When I asked my future wife for her phone number and not her girlfriend’s, she was surprised and caught off balance. Her girlfriend had been throwing herself at me for hours but I surprised both of them. I was not Mr. Nice Guy, but I was entertaining polite and humorous. Her girlfriend was not happy, but she ended up being happy for her friend and ended up being bridesmaid. It can happen. Being the bad boy will likely only get you the bad girls… sure they want the bad boys, like we want the bad girls, but you don’t marry them. Remember what you are looking for is unlikely to beat your door down, but they are out there. Go get em!
Well, for what it is worth, that is my advice. It worked for me. I hope women haven’t changed that much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yKK8qft6...

There is no ordinance. This is a private space An endowment maintains the park. In the other thread on this same topic, I posted a link from Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skidmore_Fo...

My tip-off was that she was moved along by a SECURITY GUARD (not a city cop).

I trust that she will continue being entrrepeneurial and innovative, but a salient fact was left out of this story.

Thanks! See my comment also below a few hours earlier.

What a way to take a story and twist it! Another example and a lesson of never to talk to the Media because the Media will make a story that it wants to make, with truth being completely irrelevant and often in the way. I have no doubt that the reporter knew the facts and chose to ignore them. The farmers markets throughout the country work on essentially the same principles everywhere: the vendor pays for a space (leases it, in effect) and is allowed by the market organizer and by their contract to sell only the specific products that the vendor produces himself. The spaces are usually highly valued and there is often waiting list to get them. She may need money for her braces, but another vendor may need money for his kid's braces - he can't and shouldn't just move over because Madison wants his space. A vendor, even if he wants to, cannot take Madison's product and sell it for her - the vendor signed a contract that he can sell only his own produce. This case has nothing to do with government, free markets, etc., it is simply a reporter making a story where there is none. The market is a private enterprise, no different from a mall or your house. Would it be OK for an adorable girl to set up her business in a mall without paying for the space, or perhaps in your front yard?

I think very few women wish to be dominated like that; although I'm sure some do. Those old movies do not reflect the nature of modern women's expectations, nor men's. Those old movies are just fantasy. No doubt many men and women fantasize about behavior they would not enjoy in reality. There is a fine line between insincere flattery and sincere appreciation. "Courtship ploys" infers insincerity also. You are quite right these would be seen right through by any women of character, but sincerity is the key. Be sincere, fun and respectful, use your sense of humor and women will enjoy your company. Courtship, if sincere, is like anticipation and can be very compelling. Nobody loves a wet blanket or a rude boar. It costs nothing to be courteous and gracious and the benefits are manifold. Best of luck!

she appreciated his efficiency, but adoration is not a little sugar

you catch bees with honey, hiraghm

I love her name

She launched a website: www.madisonroot.com.

So proud of her! She's taking orders and will be selling mistletoe later this month at another venue. On her site, she's asking for donations for braces and to "support entrepreneurial spirit in kids." Not sure what the last part entails... but I'm glad to see she'll be back to sales soon.

More information:
http://www.katu.com/news/local/Update-Hu...

Thanks for the story! Love to see this kiddo getting support.

As I pointed out in the other thread on this topic, she was on private property. We applaud her enterprise, of course, but a significant fact was left out of the Fox News report which colored the presentation. It was not "the social democrats of Oregon" who stopped her. It was as if she had been in a shopping mall.

Apparently, the confusion is rooted in the beggars being allowed to infringe on the property rights of the park owners in the name of "free speech." That error does originate in the politics of Portland. Again, my wife and I considered moving to Portland, but the beggars drove us away.

Good story j_IR1776wg,
I hope this go-getter finds a better location... one that is welcoming. I hope the people in charge of writing the asinine ordinance get lumps of coal in their stockings.