"Political correctness will still trump rational thought". That says it all.

I agree.

they died because we were pretending that we had
made great progress against the enemy, and we
were running guns for a CIA program which remains
classified to this day. . Both are Hillary's fault. . imho. -- j

not twenty sixteen. . those are my 3 words for her. -- j

Welcome to the Gulch, Tom.

We will enjoy your company.

Jan

I don't think it makes a difference...unless 4 people needlessly died. OOoohh. Burn.

Alright, guess i'll hang out for a while... :)

see? . told ya! -- j

Aww. Dig toe in ground. Blush.

Jan

You have probably already cleverly discerned from the other threads active over the last day or so that there are a wide variety of topics and discussion styles on this list. Many of them will fulfill your desire for rational conversation. Your desire for intelligent discussion is mutual: it is one of the things that keeps us going on the Gulch list - the ability to relax into a logical discussion with people who reason from relatively similar premises.

Other threads are technical/informational in nature. We have an incredible spread of expertise on this site and I could expect to receive information on how to coat baskets with pitch or what the most user friendly secure encryption protocol is if I put out those questions to the list.

But there are other, trivial, topics as well: music, venting... I don't know what types of people you have in you personal circle, but sometimes being able to vent to like-minded folk is valuable. This is one of those threads.

Enjoy.

Jan
(agree with your last comment)

At this time in our ever-evolving pop culture driven country, looks will probably be the deciding factor in the 2016 presidential election (if one is actually held).
When Bill Mahr interviewed Hillary and told her: "I have three words for you. ..." , somehow I thought that the three words would be: Life Style Lift !

Speaking of the MSM, do you all remember how they pounded into every ones head that McCain was to old? Also, how Palin would be too young and inexperienced to take over as President if something happened to McCain!!!

So instead the MSM promoted a man that had ZERO experience in running anything!!!

I had just hoped that this forum would be a site of intelligent discussion, something sorely lacking online. I have not been on it very long and have found some interesting comments but a lot of it, as you say, childish.
Remember that Ayn Rand despised Reagan and was no fan of conservatives as well.
As a disclaimer, I am not an American. If I was, I would have no idea what party to vote for. Both are repugnant, just in different ways.

Jan is really fine at distilling the essence from
something which is scattered all over, and making
sense -- rational sense -- of it, IMHO....... -- j

ha!

That wasn't even the point CG! And cripes...you're talking to a bunch of rational thick skins...that wasn't even necessary.

Hell yeah!!!

Margaret Thatcher ???
I'll take her over Hillary

It's 2015 and 'looks' are the order of the day.... good jesus!

There is only one response possible:

Yep.

Jan

I have observed that the general populace regards it as ok for a woman to be successful only if she is unattractive. Most people are very uncomfortable with a beautiful woman who succeeds on her own merit.

Now that you mention it, it was Palin who was held up as the contrast: her good looks were held against her; Hillary's...'weathered'...look was lauded.

Jan

Thank you, jlc

I've never heard that.
Hell, I'll bet Palin was getting votes purely for her looks. If Palin told me she'd beat me with a whip if elected, I'd still vote for her...twice :-)