Could this be the way to build a Gulch?

Posted by terrycan 6 years, 9 months ago to Culture
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Seasteading is often talked about. I wonder how much money is required to start one.
SOURCE URL: http://venturebeat.com/2015/02/23/reality-show-about-an-unregulated-offshore-techno-libertarian-utopia-in-the-works/


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  • Posted by freedomforall 6 years, 9 months ago
    Either accept another regime's rules or arm ourselves to defend our own rules.
    No existing regime will sell a viable place to be an independent competing country.
    Here is an example of a very remote possibility.
    Tonga and Fiji are still fighting over this "island" group that is sometimes above high tide:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minerva_Ree...
    Are there "surface" atolls that can be settled and defended?

    A seastead established with 'permission' or in a 'free trade zone' is still subject to that regime's control. We'd be just as well off to establish a 'seastead' on a rural riverbank in a 'friendly' country/state, and the cost of infrastructure would be much lower. Taxes on floating/moveable housing are much harder to enforce.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 9 months ago
    I love the idea. JBrenner and I talked about it and thought it would be too expensive, but I can't remember why. The website puts the cost in the $400/sqft range. That puts it in a range where it could work but will be hard to get started and get to critical mass. Undeveloped existing land in remote locations can be had for a few cents a sq ft.

    Then I start thinking it shouldn't be remote b/c it needs easy access to talent and supplies but somehow remote enough to fly under the radar of authorities. That pushes me toward a small island near a population center, which is more expensive than a seasted.

    I hope people separately pursue the different options, and loose federation of semi-stateless enclaves (Gulches) crops up.
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    • Posted by 6 years, 9 months ago
      Old oil rigs could be a good place to start. Still expensive. The remote land at a few cents is more appealing. How do we develop a fine standard of living in plain site and avoid government interference?
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