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The Eco-nazi greenies are tampering with history

Posted by Non_mooching_artist 9 years, 3 months ago to Science
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Good article. Revealing regarding the "father" of climate studies. He was a scientist first and foremost, and did not subscribe to alarmism. Skeptical of human caused climate change, because of previous occurrences. The greenies want to erase the historical data, in order to further their agenda of banning anything which makes human existence more comfortable.


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  • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Crichton's books are always about the perversion of "pure science." Usually this perversion was the result of unscrupulous businesses in his novels. In this sense he was not for freedom, however his commitment to science meant he could not support the nonsense of AGW. I recommend Prey (still the result of an unscrupulous business, but brilliant) and of course State of Fear.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't know how strongly he believed, only that he began with it as his premise. When he discovered that the premise was incorrect, he had the intellectual integrity to completely re-write his book. That speaks pretty highly of the man, IMHO.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I didn't know that before he wrote the book that he was an anthropogenic global warming believer. Interesting.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Amen. One of the last books he wrote before his untimely demise.

    What was particularly notable is that if you read Crichton's own motivations for writing the book, he started out with the premise that anthropogenic global warming was a real phenomenon simply because he believed the main-stream media. The problem was that Crichton does extensive research before publishing any of his books - you can see it in Jurassic Park, Prey, Timeline, Andromeda Strain, and others. So as he began researching the real data, he realized that it was all crap and completely re-wrote his book to fit with the real data. Now there's a real scientist.

    It should also be mentioned that he was very public in his opposition to governments spending trillions on global warming. He instead said that if they were going to throw away the money anyway, that they ought to use it to improve the nations of Africa where they could have a verifiable positive impact in the near- and long-term.

    I highly recommend his novels. They are well-supported, with not only a good plot, but engaging dialogue where the characters discuss the problem and solution. I almost wish that before he had died he had re-written "Atlas Shrugged".
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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That is an eye opening article. Wow! Oppressing the middle and lowers classes is the modus operandi for centuries. And an elite military force. No wonder there was fertile ground for a hitler.
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 3 months ago
    Here is an excellent (albeit lengthy) essay on Nazism and the Green Movement. Highly interesting and from deeper historical roots. from the article:
    "Picture the scene. At the edge of a forest, German soldiers point their guns at rows of naked people who follow the Jewish religion. Among them are young mothers clutching their babies. The shots echo through the woods and the dead bodies fall into the ground. Down the road, while this is happening, their German army comrades are busy establishing nature walks and bird sanctuaries and planting trees. The Nazis conducted horrific experiments on children (I have seen footage so upsetting it can’t be shown on TV) but at the same time they banned medical experiments on animals. The same Nazi monsters who committed crimes of unimaginable barbarity also advocated vegetarianism, organic agriculture, forest preservation and homeopathic healthcare."
    http://www.martindurkin.com/blogs/nazi-g...
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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It is staggering that these ignorant jerks haven't connected the dots on that.
    And my big f-u to them- I use a wood pellet stove AND oil to heat my home! Bwahahahaha! And I'm WARM. It is -35* here in western CT, so staying warm is paramount.
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  • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Unless you are using nuclear power, you are also using so-called fossil fuels to power your electric car.
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  • Posted by RevJay4 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Most folks still don't get it that the electric cars are reliant on the industry which 0 is trying to put out of business. The stupidity of people never fails to amaze me.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Read a ten-page section right around p. 500 of the paperback version in which the fictional professor details the whole sordid tale of eco-Nazi greenies and pseudoscience.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    These are most definitely natural warming and cooling cycles that have been occurring since earth became a planet. None of it has anything to do with humans using fossil fuels.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yep. Smack in New England, and I've watched it snow all day. The temp has barely gone above 14* in over a week. The snow is up to my hips, I'm 5'-8", so it's deep. Wind chill warnings for tonight and tomorrow night are as follows; 15-25 below zero, and 25-55 below zero. It is SO WARM! Godshairyballs, if it get any colder, my new neighbors will be polar bears!
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 3 months ago
    One of the books on the required reading list for Gulchers should be State of Fear by the late Michael Crichton. The Eco-Nazi greenies were debunked quite thoroughly.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It is not shocking at all that the father of an institution would have both his institution and his legacy co-opted (ex. Robert Stadler).
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  • Posted by jlblan2 9 years, 3 months ago
    As a professional Meteorologist and Engineer having studied climatology for many years, anyone who believes that humanity and not the sun is the main influence on our climate is a fool. Those Roman cities that are currently underwater, (have been long before the industrial revolution) and the Viking having to abandon Greenland when the cooling occurred are just two examples of the suns many cycles. Study Telsa and look into sterling engines if you want efficiency in energy production but don't have government dictate what industry must do. The market place should rule.
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  • Posted by amhunt 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Certainly. I hate it when things like that ("... one of the most scientifically literate ...") are "sneaked" into articles (and "news" -- the lame stream media does it constantly). In this case I would like to believe that it was simply "thoughtless" but I do have my doubts. You and dbh both picked up on it and I thank you!
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  • Posted by sumitch 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wish the electric company would force my bill to $00.00. That I could forgive.

    Interesting factoid. The electric producers are the most polluting industry in the country. There go the electric cars to replace the foul smelling, air polluting cars and trucks. Also your house, your office building and night time football.

    But don't worry. The windmills and solar panels will do the job.
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