Vote all you want. The secret government won’t change.

Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 3 months ago to Books
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On another Gulch Post, some discussion and even disagreements arose about the value of the individual vote, particularly on the national scene and the alleged importance for Objectivist on the site to help conservatives get elected since they are the least worst of the two major parties offered and that we shouldn't 'waste our vote' by voting for some third party candidate. Simply not voting was also criticized even more strongly.

For myself, I've long been convinced that elections are largely entertainment and of absolutely no consequence in the government and policies of this country, and in fact haven't been since Lincoln's time with the beginnings of the democratization of the vote and in particular, since Roosevelt's dictatorship. My argument centers on the facts that elected and appointed officials don't actually run the institutions and agencies of government. They are just the face presented to the public much as the talking heads of news broadcasts. The real government consists of the bureaucracies and the Executive Services branches of those operations, that have taken over nearly every aspect of our national policies and even local government.

I've discovered a fairly new published book by an author with much experience in the inner or dark government that actually runs this country. While the author writes and relates from his area of experience in National Security within the government, it is my contention that the facts of this book apply throughout government and reveals how much secret and hidden power and insularity these bureaucrats actually have and exercise, and how little those that we elect and those that get appointed can affect anything, including the courts. Although I haven't finished the book by any means, I'm still ready to recommend the book and discussion of the issues revealed within the book.

"By Jordan Michael Smith OCTOBER 19, 2014
THE VOTERS WHO put Barack Obama in office expected some big changes. From the NSA’s warrantless wiretapping to Guantanamo Bay to the Patriot Act, candidate Obama was a defender of civil liberties and privacy, promising a dramatically different approach from his predecessor.

But six years into his administration, the Obama version of national security looks almost indistinguishable from the one he inherited. Guantanamo Bay remains open. The NSA has, if anything, become more aggressive in monitoring Americans. Drone strikes have escalated. Most recently it was reported that the same president who won a Nobel Prize in part for promoting nuclear disarmament is spending up to $1 trillion modernizing and revitalizing America’s nuclear weapons.

Why did the face in the Oval Office change but the policies remain the same? Critics tend to focus on Obama himself, a leader who perhaps has shifted with politics to take a harder line. But Tufts University political scientist Michael J. Glennon has a more pessimistic answer: Obama couldn’t have changed policies much even if he tried.

Though it’s a bedrock American principle that citizens can steer their own government by electing new officials, Glennon suggests that in practice, much of our government no longer works that way. In a new book, “National Security and Double Government,” he catalogs the ways that the defense and national security apparatus is effectively self-governing, with virtually no accountability, transparency, or checks and balances of any kind. He uses the term “double government”: There’s the one we elect, and then there’s the one behind it, steering huge swaths of policy almost unchecked. Elected officials end up serving as mere cover for the real decisions made by the bureaucracy."

Can this 'double government' ever be reigned in to actually be influenced by the public and concerns of citizens?


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  • Posted by $ Abaco 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks. I'm not happy about it. I just got tired of wasting my time. My grandfather, now 93, will kick my ass if he finds out. Please don't tell him...
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree with that. They will just keep on keepin on until they are stopped. Who is going to stop them. They bend with wind... and the hot air is winning this fight.
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm not concerned about motives...the fact remains that Congress HAS used their power to cut funds before.
    I was only correcting your opening line for you.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    But Congress only did that after Breitbart did his sting on them. Congress knew what was going on before his work and did nothing staring back in 07. They weren't hiding behind Halloween masks. Congress had no enforcement control or will power.
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  • Posted by GordonMuth 9 years, 3 months ago
    United we stand, divided we fall!

    The only way to turn things around is to unite as an unstoppable force for freedom, put the right people in office and demand that they do the right thing. As long as we are divided the government will continue to do what the government wants to do, when and how it wants to do it.

    If we want the government the constitution grants us, we will vote, we will campaign, we will convince others to join us and we will hold our leaders accountable when they are swayed by fear rather than guided by reason!

    It isn't impossible, but it is probably the most difficult task we could ever hope to accomplish.
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not true.
    "ACORN leaders announced that the group was disbanding in March 2010, after Congress cut off all federal funding to the organization."
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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I would just about bet you the price of a good steak dinner that you will not see any defunding by this Congress. You might hear a lot of tough and supposedly angry talk, but no action that actually changes anything.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    But the Congress never has voted to defund any of them. They are answerable only to themselves. Congress seems to only call the appointed officials rather than the actual managers and directors. Even when they find malfeasance, example the VA debacle, they can't get anyone fired. The VA actually went ahead a paid bonuses to those same employees this last year.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The author of the review article of the book may very well be a progressive or liberal, but the author of the book still has it right, though I haven't finished the book quite yet.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Congress could take control back if they had the cajones and cared about the future of the country. But we'll never be able to get enough of that type elected. It's a fraud.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Makes sense to me. But you're very right about all of the government and other institutions that have been taken over through the same subterfuge. Haven't you noticed that so far only two people in the IRS scandal have lost their jobs. Gun Walking, I don't think anyone has lost their jobs. Congress can't even fire them, if they can figure out who they are.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Probably can,but we're going to get at least some claw marks and he might eat a few of us before we get the door shut. Then there'll be some idiot that comes along and thinks it's so sad that the poor lion is caged and not living as a lion should and let him loose again.
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  • Posted by edweaver 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Unfortunately I am running out of patience and don't believe they will do a single thing to make it better. Sure hope you are right & I am wrong!
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