Hpw True is this for others?

Posted by Vinay 9 years, 2 months ago to Science
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Mihaly’s insights ring very true for me. I can recall many occasions, but the most recent was a few nights ago. It was well past 2am when I finished the Fall Guy piece for Savvy Street, and the last two paragraphs, full of rhetoric, just flowed, like some other hand had taken over. And this has happened many times not only in novel and feature writing (art/ creation), but in my business career, as long as I was given the rope to construct something that I argued should be and could be done (by me), and even as a student (where you can explore the subject freely and write a term paper like you were the Editor-in-chief). Mihaly talks of work, play, and art, but even sport we play our best when we are all in.
SOURCE URL: http://www.ted.com/talks/mihaly_csikszentmihalyi_on_flow


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  • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 2 months ago
    Yes, there are times when I am part of what I am doing: the horse and I are one, the fight is crystal clear, the poem writes itself, the technical document (yes, even that) flows out of my fingertips and if someone tries to interrupt I wave them away and keep on typing. It is when there is no difference between work and play.

    Jan
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  • Posted by GordonMuth 9 years, 2 months ago
    I always referred to this as being in the groove, like on a race course, where you had picked the perfect line and were blasting around the track in record time. Unfortunately, I never found myself in the groove on the track, typically I find myself in the grove at the keyboard...while solving complex problems.
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  • Posted by jimjamesjames 9 years, 2 months ago
    I read FLOW in the early '90s and was fortunate to meet the man in Casper, Wyoming, at a symposium on "creativity." FLOW changed my life when I accepted that it was me, no one else, that could commit to a project of any kind and, if I did, I would have more enjoyment. Since reading the book, I have observed many people (my wife is one) who have a much stronger, innate, ability to get into a state of flow without effort. I envy them. I think part of it has to do with the degree to which a person's personality is OCD (in the good sense) which I am not.
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    • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 2 months ago
      re: my comment below, yes, you found me out... I know that I am pretty high on the OCD scale, if there is one, and that the 'flow' experience is probably a good descriptor of the connection and the experience.

      Likewise, I've begun to consider the possibility that EVERYONE is somewhere on a bell-curve of Asperger's Syndrome, from minus to plus MANY 'sigmas' and OCD is just somewhere to the right of the peak... :)

      But whether I was designing a Vceo test circuit, conceiving of a way to increase the I/sb capabilities of a PNP transistor chip, forecast product sales three quarters out into the future, conceptually re-map our division's product line or figure out how to achieve a Really Smooth and Flat bottom for a turned wooden bowl, the feelings were all quite similar.

      (or discuss politics, religion and economics, too...)

      ;)
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 2 months ago
    I'm not familiar with this man, but I do know that when I'm doing something I enjoy, something that is fulfilling, I get progressively better at it. But, that's almost a definition of achievement. It's well expressed in the song "What I Did For Love." Not sure how relevant this is, but WTH.
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  • Posted by wiggys2 9 years, 2 months ago
    all of the government administrators that we joyfully elect to take as much of our money as possible are doing it for our own good so we can be happy. they know this and the fellow is proving it. sorry but i do not buy it. maybe a greater understanding of objectivist philosophy is needed.
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  • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 2 months ago
    I had several reactions to that talk. Early on, it reminded me of times at my first "real job" when I had the experience of challenge plus skill plus satisfaction, but it was nowhere near ten years in.

    In fact, it was just a few years in. At ten years, the work became boring, as my development was thwarted by a lack of growth path in the organization and such a high level of problem-solving and innovation in the daily work that creativity was taken over by 'routine.'

    But as he continued, and towards the end of the talk, I found myself in agreement with the last chart: when the combination in the environment provided the 'flow' experience, those were the 'happiest times' for me, including every work position AND every most-enjoyable experience in non-work hobbies and amusements, too!

    I ended up forwarding the link for the talk to a large number of folks on my email lists.

    thanks, Vinay, for the lead!
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