most of the deaths were from egg allergy to that component of the vaccine. The vaccine is safe, has prevented millions from being infected from a serious disease that can cause death to infertility...based on science not opinion

Thank you for posting this. I don't know why you haven't got any comments. I hadn't really followed the latest story very much, and was kind of thinking that perhaps this was a new type of measles, more severe, perhaps deadlier, than the measles I had for a week as a kid. I do not understand the urgency to vaccinate people against non-lethal diseases. I never get flu shots. Why? I'm in great shape and its not going to kill me, probably just a few days of throwing up and diarrhea, and it will build up my immunities. There are some benefits to getting sick once in a while.

My fellow Americans are paranoid. I think 9/11 really changed America. Ever since then we seem so afraid, so eager to stick anybody with the label of "enemy". So, now the anti-vax and maxi-vax people must be at each other. I've heard anti-vaxers called "biological terrorists". LOL. There's a lot of mention of Andrew Wakefield in social media lately. That's a story that got twisted then got legs. It's too bad people are so wound up over this.

So, think about it. In your personal circle do you know anybody who's gotten measles lately? I don't. We had one suspected case but it ended up being a severe reaction to antibiotics for a young boy. As I watched yet more coverage on the measles story by Brian Williams last night (you know...he never lies) the thought occurred to me. We have all these reported cases of measles yet I have yet to see one person or family member directly effected on the news. I looked over at my buddy and said, "Could this just be a cooked up story?" What do you think? Maybe local news in SoCal has been interviewing victims of this outbreak.

I know I'm supposed to be afraid, but I'm just not feeling it.

When I was a kid, there were three diseases you were expected to get while still in primary school. A sort of rite of passage. They were chicken pox, mumps, and the two kinds of measles, German measles, and measel measles. I seemed to have missed one of the measles because in my late 20s I went to my boss and said I had to go home because I think I had the measles. He said he thought it was just a rash, and opening my shirt, I said "All over?" There was no hoo-ha about it. You got it, you were sick for a few days and that was it.

of course the vaccene is, that's because nobody is dying of measles hardly, due to the vaccine. If we didn't have the vaccine hell a lot of people would be dying from the measles. A lot more than would be killed by the vaccine. That's why we have vaccines. why is this so damn difficult for nitwit soccer moms to understand.

I think it is safe to say Disneyland is the reason we're dealing with so much measles scare mongering in the media these days. If it hadn't been for Disneyland we wouldn't have been hearing about unrelated and minor incidents such as the 5 kids in Chicago getting it.

Disneyland as the "ground zero" has a much better headline draw than LAX.

Looking at the stats we get around 50-75 cases per year in the U.S. This is much better than the half-mill we were getting in the early 50's. There were two factors in this regard: 1) The natural vaccination of the country, and 2) later vaccine developments.



We've been largely enjoying the benefits of both, though the effects of the first are waning. Surveys indicates that during the 50's at least 95% of the country had had measles by age 15.

In any case, in a population with exposure of vaccination levels as we have there are bound to be outbreaks. These outbreaks are very much like terrorism - occasional but not overall significant on their own.

Here's all you need to know about Natural News as a source...
http://geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/0...
Doesn't mean they are always wrong, but take anything from that site with a Pikes Peak-sized grain of salt.

The public is being played like a drum. It's a moot point because, state-by-state, there are laws being drafted to force people to fully vaccinate their kids. This is being done by removing all exemption possibilities and tying education, even home schooling, to full vaccination. If parents don't comply CPS will take the kids and do it, possibly never returning the children to their parents (unfit, you know).

See...I told you this would get interesting for Objectivists. LOL...

This is silly. If there was no measles vaccine, lots of people would die from measles.

I remember as a child being taken to visit other kids who had measles in the hope that I would contract it early, and thereby get immunity. I got the 3-day measles, but never caught the real measles.

This is absolute junk science. "Nobody" dying from measles is because it was wiped out in the US until the latest crop of Millennial generational tree-huggers and quacks with test tube babies in their 40's/50's in Orange County, CA with way too much time on their hands.

3 million kids are vaccinated each year, so 108 deaths out of 30 million +/-... and I'm sure the vaccine didn't kill them, it was probably an error that created a general infection or something (which can be deadly for a baby).

Without the vaccine, out of 30 million unvaccinated babies, you would be looking at around 25 million cases of measles, which is a serious illness. If on top of asthma or a respiratory infection, it is immediately very deadly. It wouldn't be a shocker to see 100,000 to 250,000 deaths from measles & complications, not to mention the side effects of the prolonged illnesses and the fact that every one of those kids would be out of school for 3 weeks at a time, pretty much wiping out the school.

This is about one thing, mommy is afraid of needles. That's it, so she runs with ridiculous levels of made-up research to find something to justify her concerns.

There are 2 religions that are opposed to vaccination - the JW's used to be back in the 50's, but I think that went away, polio pretty much snuffed out that thought. My dad had polio before the vaccine, they broke his "good" leg 27 times over a 3 year period trying to 'stunt' its growth to match the short polio leg. When that didn't work, they put 350 staples in the bone to keep the bone from growing. When I was about 15, he had over 1000 metal fragments removed from the muscle tissue of his leg where those staples had fragmented. Obviously, none of that worked, and he was put in the "iron lung" for weeks to keep him breathing. It was a horrific disease.

I really kinda hope some of these kids wind up with polio too, so the US can join the Kashmir region of India as being the only place in the world where polio exists.

Christian Scientists are the only one "opposed" on religious grounds. Ok, that's pretty small... something in the decimal point of under 0% of the population, but upwards of 10% of kids are unvaccinated, so it comes back to my argument. Mommy is afraid of needles.

Yeah....which indicates to me that the vaccine works, no? A vaccine that killed people *and* ended up letting people die of the disease wouldn't be much good, would it?

And without vaccine there would be tens of thousands of deaths. Try logic

It's not children who contract measles who are most at risk. It is their unborn siblings. Measles is a teratogen which may cause stillbirth but more frequently deafness. $5Au finds it unbelievable that this is even an issue in 2015.

Of course, if the disease is very rare from previous vaccinations then the chance of having a reaction to the vaccine may be greater than that of catching the disease. Notice the word "kill". Measles is no fun but usually not fatal. Chances of vaccine fatality might be greater than that from measles.

"while at least 108 deaths reported in VAERS during the same time frame have been linked to measles vaccines"

VAERS is an unmonitored reporting system. You can report as many things as you want as many times as you want to in it.

Jan

The dilemma mankind has created for itself with vaccines is that it allows the weak to procreate. Up to a point in history, only those with robust immune systems and strong physical constitutions survived. The unknown positive outcome is how many physically infirm are powerful intellectuals that might have been eliminated in the past. The technological turning point we now seem to be reaching is that we are slowly learning how to overcome physical infirmity, and even getting some indication we may be able to increase our intellectual abilities. Are we about to achieve some form of morally acceptable eugenics? I honestly don't know, any more than I can foresee if our artificially intelligent creations may overtake our new "super race". The Singularity seems to be approaching rapidly.