And no I'm not talking about all Muslims before you pull that out of your bag of excuses. I'm sure some (most) are peaceful but point them out to me. I'm talking about the low rent swine that burned the pilot alive, or those that behead or those that stone and mutilate women or those that crucify. I don't recall hearing or reading about any Christians or Jews practicing that abomination today.

Yes and 5:29 says:
"If you should raise your hand against me to kill me – I shall not raise my hand against you to kill you. Indeed, I fear Allah, Lord of the worlds."
and 5:34 says:
"Except for those who return [repenting] before you apprehend them. And know that Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."

As I said, using statements like the one you quote out of context is inappropriate. Even the passage you quote is in defense against an aggressor, not an instruction to conquer.

Now, back to the second question, and the main point. Indeed the bible does not instruct the killing of amish or mormons or heritics, yet self-proclaimed christians did just that and worse. Now you probably respond with something like they were misled, not really christians or we aren't like that anymore... Exactly!

Now offer islam the same relief.

I would like to say that it is a bad situation that we, as a country, have gotten ourselves into a position where in order to be elected POTUS you have to lie and say you are a Christian - whether or not you are.

I would like it a lot more if someone just out and said they were Muslim or Atheist. Sadly, this would guarantee their non-election.

Jan

His early education in Indonesia in a Muslim school will also slant him towards Muslims.

Thank you, Thoritsu. I really dislike all Muslims being thrown into one basket (and turned to glass, according to some). I also think that it is crucial to realize that Christians pick and choose amongst the statements in their book just as the Muslims do. Enlightened people will find religious justification for their views; so will terrorist radicals.

We do not need to eliminate the Muslim religion; we do need to deal with Muslim terrorists (and, yes, call them "Muslim terrorists" - maybe some of the Muslim non-terrorists will get tired of the term and turn on their extremist element and start kicking their butts. Wait that has happened: the Kurds are Muslims (at least some of them).).

Jan

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Amish and Mormons were not religions at the time of the writing so naturally the bible does not say to slaughter them.

There is no doubt that BHO has a proclivity toward Islam. His actions veritably shout it at you. The 20 years he attended Wright's church suited his far left background but never made him a Christian or anything else but a radical.

Please point me to the specific passage in the quran where it says to kill all infidels.

Also please show me where it says in the bible to slaughter the amish and mormons.

Also read "Things that matter" by Krauthammer.

The quran clearly says to kill and behead all infidels. That's not the whole book so you can say it's out of context if you like but anyone not trying to cover for these murderous animals knows that's what it says and that's not some misunderstanding. God did not instruct Samuel to kill and behead all that are not Christians. Maybe there's a little difference there. .

0 is a MUSLIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
haven't you noticed how the arab mind works; corner one and he will change the subject until he believes he has the upper hand. in the case of 0 he is in a unique position that he can say what ever the hell he wants and knows nobody will respond back to him directly to his face. he has never read the history of which he spoke but was TOLD what to say. then again he never knows why he says anything because he is always TOLD what to say. I keep looking for the string coming out the back of his neck.

We have to get off this business of islam fundamentally requiring killing all non-believers or taking over the world. This is just not true.

The offending text refers to the polytheists in Mecca that persecuted Mohamed's people and is is taken out of context. The quran also states that jews, christians and muslims are all people of Abraham who will go to heaven..

"2:62 Those who believe, and those who follow the Jewish (faith), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve."

The statements being used to assert islam is fundamentally intolerant are little different than the old testament, where god instructs Samuel to kill women, children and infants:

"Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."

Islam is being used by individuals to control the masses for power, exactly, like christianity and other religions have been used to control people for power.

I'm not sure it's a matter of courage. I think he believes as a Muslim does. Muslims have been a boil on the backside of humanity for two thousand years. The only thing they understand is hatred of non believers and the lust to kill them. The burning alive of the pilot proves what rapid animals they are. We put down rabid dogs don't we?

I don't agree with and frankly don't understand almost everything about BHO but I can see the problem he has regarding Islam. The US has positioned itself as the moral police of the world. There are 1.6 billion Muslims. Their fundamental teachings demand that they convert or kill all nonbelievers and establish a world caliphate. Some, perhaps many Muslims do not, at present, act on this aspect of their faith but they have not corrected it. They have not formalized an "Enlightenment" and therefore give credence to their brothers that are not extremists but traditionalists. In Obama's position if he recognizes this he must act. He does not have the courage to a act and doesn't think that the rest of the world does either.

There is an expression in rhetoric for this,
diversionary tactic.

You would be hard pressed to find a supporter of those Christian injustices today, yet s there is a flood of volunteers wanting to join in the current atrocities.
Obama says, “No God condones terror.” Yet Muhammad is depicted in a hadith as having said: “I have been made victorious through terror” (Bukhari 4:52.220). And the Qur’an says: “Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies of Allah and your enemies…” (8:60)

OB said: “It also just indicates the degree to which whatever ideology they’re operating off of, it’s bankrupt.”

I make a call to help OB, does anyone know the name he searches for to describe- 'whatever ideology',
some form of Presbyterianism maybe, or is it right-wing Zionism, Buddhists for climate action, or fundamentalist Objectivists? Beats me.

I read most of it. He sounds like an esteemed expert. I disagree with him on many policy matters mentioned in the article.

Read his bio first...he has had a remarkable life.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kra...

Thank you for the link. I don't know of him, but I can't understand why he's astonished by the president saying what IMHO are all the right things.

Do you trust Charles Krauthammer ? He was once connected to the Carter administration.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/02/...

I find it contemptible that some commentators are still milking this. They must have no story ideas. The quotes represent President Obama doing his job, promoting pluralism, and condemning violent extremism. I find the condemnation of these comments disgraceful. I wholeheartedly support the quotes of President Obama in the articles I've read.