Health Insurance Sometimes Borders on a Racket

Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 3 months ago to Economics
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We took our kid to a doctor for a minor but persistent respiratory problems. The doc suggested two possible diagnostic tests. We asked some questions about whether the results would affect which interventions we used. I thought the results may or may not be of some use, so I asked what it would cost. He said something like, “Oh no, do you have to pay for medicine [outside of health plan premiums]?” We told him yes, but the cost would not be a burden for us at all. We talked through it and we all decided the tests wouldn't affect the treatment and would only be worthwhile if someone else were paying for it.

This is the THIRD TIME in the past four years a doctor has suggested something that costs several thousand dollars and withdrew the suggestion after we took a moment to work through a quick-and-dirty cost/benefit analysis.

There was an opposite example with my wife's pregnancy. The doc started to say we could have so many ultrasound tests and then said, “oh wait, you're private pay. Nevermind. You can have them every day if you want. They're $183 each.”

These insurance plans that insure against every little trifling expenditure are a gravy train for providers. They start with people wanting to turn over responsibility for managing expenses to a company or gov't.

People should be free to make stupid health decisions, like my decision to indulge in Taco Bell and other unhealthful habits.


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  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We have often posed the same question. I am still beyond baffled. I therefore take my comments elsewhere. But yours deserved a response. :-)
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  • Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 2 months ago
    I see insurance as part of the problem not the solution. Obama and Democrats have been touting universal insurance as the solution since Clinton. Republicans only differ in allowing people (at present) to choose private sources for insurance. The medical care system has deteriorated ever since insurance started interfering in the normal price mechanism of supply and demand by removing cost to the buyer as a limit to demand. Government then entered with medicare/medicaid to further destroy the proper function of supply/demand price mechanism. Obamacare takes the perversion to the obvious next stage in the ongoing disaster, and as always government has gone in exactly the wrong direction intentionally.
    Medical care service is the product being demanded, NOT insurance. Demand for insurance is by looters who think that with insurance the medical care service is free. TANSTAAFL. The solution is to return supply and demand to equilibrium using the natural pricing mechanism of the market. Insurance prevents that mechanism from operating. Both government supported insurance and private insurance has caused this imbalance.

    After you voted for more of these socialist policies, do you recognize your own hypocrisy ?
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 2 months ago
    Borders on a racket? It is way past the border. Today Orren Boyle would be in charge of sickcare (as opposed to healthcare) financing.
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  • Posted by richrobinson 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That was the disconnect I couldn't understand how she could see the clear benefits of the free market and conclude we needed the exact opposite.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Voting for the continuing emergency under the DemRep Party is a wasted vote. Voting against that evil conspiracy is a protest against perversion of the system.
    The only chance for a positive peaceful resolution and return to original American ideals is to recognize the unholy alliance of the DemRep Party and to destroy it.
    Those who irrationally cling to HOPE in the unending lies told by the DemRep Party are part of the problem and are another obstruction to a peaceful solution.
    Open your eyes!
    Judge results, not promises.
    Are your goals to have bigger more intrusive government?
    That is the only result of the DemRep Party of the past 100 years.
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  • Posted by Mamaemma 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm sorry, Robbie. I really don't understand the question. I haven't banned anyone, not that I could or would want to. Just trying to understand. I might learn something!
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That new machine, or procedure, would not have been invented under single payer (read: socialized) health care.

    Why would anyone invest their time, and money?
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My votes were not wasted. Back in 2008, in the Republican primary, I ranked McCain and Romney 10th and 9th out of the ten possible candidates. That is who "we" got as candidates. I share very little in common with them and would rather hasten the end of the looter/moocher era with Obama than have proceed agonizingly slowly with McLame or Romney or any Bush. Consequently I voted for Gary Johnson in 2012, someone I agreed with on > 85% of issues AND had executive experience.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What is the difference between CG who outright voted, and many on this site who voted for some other candidate who had absolutely no chance of being elected, thus "wasting" their vote and ensuring that the debacle occurred in the first place, and continued in the second?

    I'll certainly admit that neither McC nor Mitt were anywhere close to being my preferred candidates, but either would have been a damn site better than what we ended up with.
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  • Posted by richrobinson 10 years, 2 months ago
    This reminds me of a conversation I had with a customer. She was telling me about a new medical test that wasn't covered by insurance and cost 10,000.00. She had just seen a full page ad in the New York Times where the company was running a sale for 3,000.00. The free market was working and bringing costs down. She then told me she had concluded that we needed a single payer government run health care system. She saw the problem and what worked and yet arrived at the wrong conclusion. I feel that way with you Circuit. You see the problem but arrive at the wrong solution.
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  • Posted by Mamaemma 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A is A. Can anyone explain to me why a person who would vote for Obama would be on this site?
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Duh. YA THINK??? They also don't like their premiums doubling to get less coverage either!!! Why hasn't your gov appointed health coach nixed your taco bell yet. Your day is coming, Obama lover.
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Probably the scorecard.

    I lost mine, and I can't figure who is mad about what...or if they actually agree, but don't realize it.

    This could go into extra innings....

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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 3 months ago
    What do you mean, 'Sometimes'. Did you really vote for him? And then hang on this site and brag about unhealthful habits. Duhh!
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