Dangerous Games - "Point 'em Out, Knock 'em Out"

Posted by richrobinson 12 years, 5 months ago to The Gulch: General
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This needs more air play in the media. A kid playing the "knockout game" tries to taser a guy who has a pistol. The taser didn't work but the pistol did.


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  • Posted by UncommonSense 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good point about the education, but the problem is you have to FIRST, un-indoctrinate them before you can educate them with the facts and truth. Kommon Kore will only make the unindoctrination even harder.

    Look back on my previous post about Yuri Bezmenov ~ former Soviet Propagandist. He says in reference to indoctrination, that once they are fully indoctrinated, you are stuck with them. There is nothing you can do to change their minds. It takes between 15-20 years to do this. The only way to counter this, is to start with a new generation, and even then, we have to wait another 15-20 years before we could see a change.

    Your wish for the msm to report this with all angles covered is futile. You have a better chance of being the next guy on the moon than the media actually stepping up to report the truth about anything.
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  • Posted by $ Hiraghm 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't need to cite sources; all I need to do is copy and paste your own links.
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Now you have violated the name calling rule...you are definitely on a roll!

    You can take up your appeal for your Godwin's Law violation with the forum, but the law is pretty concise. You have the only Third Reich reference post in this thread....

    You could just 'delete' it?
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  • Posted by BambiB 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Godwin's "Law" was intended to decrease hyperbole. Here, Hiraghm has expressed a willingness to murder anyone who "acts up" in prison and has proposed punishing people for things they "might" do in the future.

    More, perfectly in line with the Nazi belief of a "master race" (country), Hiraghm has expressed his view that only an American (master race) may sit in judgment of an American (master race) and that 1000 Cambodians should be slaughtered in the event that an American violates Cambodian law and is judged by that law.

    Where is the hyperbole? Isn't this precisely the view the Nazis took? That they were the only ones who mattered, and slaughtering everyone else was acceptable?

    BambiB's law says anyone who invokes Godwin's law when a Nazi comparison is perfectly apt, is a moron. You're it!
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  • Posted by BambiB 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And the posts that you've put up recently indicate you'd be a good little Nazi, perfectly willing to stuff Jews (or Queers, or pot-smokers, or "niggas" or any other group that isn't you) into the oven. Must have order, right?

    You working for "future crime" now?

    I'd destroy you with facts - but I can see your mind is immune to facts.
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  • Posted by BambiB 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    More lashes? For the teenager? Or for herself?

    Man! We could balance the budget auctioning off lashes for Hillary!
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  • Posted by BambiB 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I cited my sources. Where are yours? Sorry, but no, your ass doesn't count.

    If this is the acme of your reasoning skills, one might be forgiven for thinking that YOU are exhibit #1 in proof of America's decline.
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  • Posted by $ Hiraghm 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, they should be tried here.
    You seem to observe an equality that doesn't exist?
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  • Posted by $ Hiraghm 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He's NOT YET hurting everyone. But, child molesters start out as consumers of kiddie porn.

    Why am I not surprised that you're defending this decadence, also?

    You're not an objectivist. You're a hedonist.
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  • Posted by $ Hiraghm 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "What are you even doing on this board if you can't accord freedom to others?"
    ...said the misogynist...

    I've never seen reefer madness. I have, however, seen the effects of illicit drugs.

    You must have had some lousy workers.

    No, alcohol isn't a gateway drug. It is borderline, and it is ingrained in our culture.
    And I love how you try to use the percentage of alcohol related motor vehicle deaths to justify legalizing marijuana. Alcohol is a lot more available than marijuana, since the latter is still illegal. So, let's legalize marijuana, and that 18% will get smaller, right?

    As for the pharmaceutical overdoses, you don't cite how many were due to *misuse* of the prescription medication, such as using somebody else's drugs, faking prescriptions, pharmaceuticals obtained from illicit sources... in other words, drug abuse.

    The tobacco statistics are bs, because they attribute *everything* to tobacco, along with the BS of second hand smoke, as part of the war on tobacco. "He died of HIV"... "Was he a smoker?"... "uhhh... says here that he was."... "Damned tobacco"... (writing)"Cause of death: tobacco related"... Here I thought heart disease was the number one cause of death in America. Silly me listening to those commercials and news items.

    No, of course I haven't seen the movie, it's a Peter Sellers movie, and it involves a hippy who isn't mangled or horribly butchered.

    Yes, Marijuana in brownies, so hilarious, giving them to unsuspecting "normal" people.

    As marijuana can be put in brownies, it can be put in a pill... and yet it's not. You... people (I use the term loosely) still want to smoke it around decent people. Even when they let you use "medical marijuana", you don't go get a bottle of pills, you go buy pot to smoke.

    I'll approve of gay marriage before I approve of legalizing illicit drugs. Gay marriage is bad for society, but it's not nearly as immediately destructive.

    Here's an idea; go get high before you vote next time... then you can giggle to yourself as you pull levers randomly...

    Let's see... 1940s... illicit drugs such as marijuana aren't common, potheads and other drug addicts are treated with the contempt they deserve; everybody smokes, many people drink, yet, America is #1 in the world, on the rise, building the future... 2000s... potheads are everywhere, America is on the decline, nobody can take us seriously... yes, there's a connection.
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  • Posted by BambiB 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually, Clinton intervened and got the sentence REDUCED. By two lashes, IIRC. That was in Singapore, if memory serves.
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  • Posted by BambiB 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wow. Bet you believed every minute of "Reefer Madness"!

    Your Country? What are you even doing on this board if you can't accord freedom to others? I'm sure the Al Queda boards would love your dictatorial approach - it's so in line with their own.

    Pot is not very addictive.

    From an article in Psychology Today (http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-...

    "Based on his review of the scientific literature, between 10 to 30% of regular users will develop dependency. Only about 9% will have a serious addiction."

    Pot is NOT as addictive as cigarettes or booze.

    "Compared to other substances, marijuana is not very addicting. It is estimated that 32% of tobacco users will become addicted, 23% of heroin users, 17% of cocaine users, and 15% of alcohol users. Cocaine and heroin are more physically harmful and nicotine is much more addictive. It is much harder to quit smoking cigarettes than it is to quit smoking pot."

    Cigarettes are FAR MORE dangerous than pot.

    CDC:
    http://www.cdc.gov/chronicdisease/resour...
    "Tobacco use is the single most preventable cause of disease, disability, and death in the United States. Each year, an estimated 443,000 people die prematurely from smoking or exposure to secondhand smoke, and another 8.6 million live with a serious illness caused by smoking. "

    Whaty about alcohol?

    CDC:
    http://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/a...
    There are approximately 80,000 deaths attributable to excessive alcohol use each year in the United States. This makes excessive alcohol use the 3rd leading lifestyle-related cause of death for the nation.
    (In case you're wondering what the second leading cause of death in the US is, it's NOT pot. It's overeating.)

    Cigarettes and booze are the #1 and #3 causes of death in America. Period. So don't give me any crap about marijuana being more dangerous.

    What about drug overdoses? Surely "demon weed" must kill thousands of people through overdose!?

    It's not even illegal drugs that do most of the killing.
    CDC:
    http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsa...
    "Drug overdose was the leading cause of injury death in 2010. Among people 25 to 64 years old, drug overdose caused more deaths than motor vehicle traffic crashes."
    What kind of drugs?
    "In 2010, of the 38,329 drug overdose deaths in the United States, 22,134 (60%) were related to pharmaceuticals."

    I couldn't find anything by the CDC related to death by pot as an overdose. Most sources put the number at... zero.

    Well, surely those hopped up pot-heads must be leading the destruction derby on the highways?
    Yeah, there's some of that. Of course, alcohol leads the way...

    CDC:
    http://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/im...
    In 2010, 10,228 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for nearly one-third (31%) of all traffic-related deaths in the United States.
    ...
    Drugs other than alcohol (e.g., marijuana and cocaine) are involved in about 18% of motor vehicle driver deaths. These other drugs are often used in combination with alcohol."
    It's not clear which drugs - pot, cocaine or alcohol - caused these fatalities - but even if we say it was 100% pot, alcohol is still 172% more likely to cause a fatal accident.

    I managed a company with a no-tolerance drug policy and implemented the first ever company-wide drug testing. We bagged 5 people. One was a POS I really wanted to get rid of. Turned out he popped positve for meth, pot and one other drug. The others tested positive for pot only. Of those, one was an average employee. One was my 2nd-best worker overall. One was an above-average worker. One was our "employee of the quarter" for his innovation in reducing manufacturing costs and a very solid and consistent performer. Fortunately, we were able to give everyone a "warning" the first time around (except the meth head who tried to adulterate his pee cup and got fired for THAT!) The employee of the quarter was eventually fired for testing positve a second time, as was the substandard employee. Point is, of the 4 pot users, three were above-average employees, and two of them were top notch. It was a small company, about 50 employees, so I knew everyone personally. Basically, half of the best employees I had were pot smokers! Oh, and the BIGGEST screwup I had was someone who was completely drug free. Go figure.

    Gateway Drug? That would be alcohol.
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/05/st...

    >> "If you can figure out a way to ingest pot without smoking it, then we can talk. If you can reverse the phoney war on tobacco, then we can talk."
    Appears you've never seen the movie, "I love you Alice B. Toklas". Everyone who has can laugh at you now.

    >> "I lost at least one or two IQ points having to occupy the same space as they without showing my utter contempt."

    Want to be careful about that. Doesn't appear you have...
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  • Posted by Mitch 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    On the other hand, we have already lost the battle over weed; it’s pervasive.
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  • Posted by BambiB 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wow. You really need to figure out how this all works. I posted, "The recidivism rate for dead criminals is precisely zero."

    to which YOU REPLIED, "That kinda violates Constitutionally protected rights, but what the hell."

    See the indentation? The dotted lines?

    If you still don't understand how this all works, get someone to explain it to you.
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Michael Peter Fay (born May 30, 1975) is an American who briefly gained international attention in 1994 when he was sentenced to caning in Singapore for theft and vandalism at age 18. Although caning is a routine court sentence in Singapore, its unfamiliarity to Americans created a backlash, and Fay's case was believed to be the first caning involving an American citizen. The number of cane strokes in Fay's sentence was ultimately reduced from six to four after U.S. officials requested leniency."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_P._...

    I followed this at the time, and realized that if Fay had been returned to America for punishment, he would have received nothing but celebrity.

    Read the story...he wasn't punished all that much, in the end.

    Fay's history after coming home, does not make his family proud....
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  • Posted by Mitch 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree with BambiB on the Libertarian ideology but my objectionist self truly agrees with Hiraghm. Drugs would be okay in our society if everyone was self-reliant and responsible but this isn’t the case.

    Drug use equals = dependence = welfare recipient = democrat voter

    In the end, we pay the bill so the drug user can use his/her drugs.
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