Dangerous Games - "Point 'em Out, Knock 'em Out"

Posted by richrobinson 12 years, 5 months ago to The Gulch: General
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This needs more air play in the media. A kid playing the "knockout game" tries to taser a guy who has a pistol. The taser didn't work but the pistol did.


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  • Posted by BambiB 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's worse than that. In Florida, it's okay for a 16-year-old and a 23-year-old to have sex. But the next year, the same two people having sex is a criminal act (because, now it's a 17-year-old and a 24 year old). Another year later, and everything is cool again - because BOTH are "adults". Here's the statute:
    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/inde......
    Also, there's the whole "child pornography" thing. There's a case where a 16 year old girl sent naked pictures of herself to her 17 year old boyfriend. Someone in the girl's family got wind of it and raised a stink. BOTH TEENS WERE CHARGED, the girl with creating "kiddie porn" and the boy with receiving/possession. Incidentally, do you know that if someone sends you "kiddie porn" pictures, and you delete them, you can still be charged if the pictures can be "resurrected" from your computer? Technically, someone could send you an ENCRYPTED file that you can't even read, or you could just click on a web page link, and a file could be downloaded to your computer you cannot even read. But you're guilty, because the law does not care how the images got on your computer. There's no limit on size of the images either. So imagine the smallest detectable image of "kiddie porn" being on your computer in encrypted form - and making you susceptible to millions of dollars in fines and decades in jail even though you have no idea the file exists. This is the current state of the law.

    Here are some teen "kiddie porn" story links:
    http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-......
    http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/11/16/......
    http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/......
    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensla......
    http://campbelllawobserver.com/2013/07/s......

    You think I'm kidding about being prosecuted for images you didn't even know were on your computer? Check this out: http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/01/16/......
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  • Posted by BambiB 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We had that Trayvon Martin circus just down the road from here. I watched most of the trial. When the prosecution opened, I thought, "There's something wrong here. The prosecution is supposed to put on witnesses that are adverse to the defendant." In effect, all the witnesses testified for the defense! It was such a slam-dunk case, I couldn't imagine there being any dissension in the jury room… except for one thing. The jury was all female. From the time it was selected, I said that was Mark O'Mara's biggest mistake - allowing an all-female jury.

    As it turned out, I was right. Fortunately, the majority of the jury were not whack jobs, but in post-decision interviews it was pretty clear that with a few changes, the jury could have hung or returned a guilty verdict - despite the overwhelming evidence of a purely righteous shoot.
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  • Posted by BambiB 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Why should there be any penalty at all associated with marijuana? Or any other drug, for that matter?

    Look, if you decide to put marijuana, or LSD, or cocaine, or heroin or any other drug into your system, isn't that YOUR choice to make (and not the government's)? The government doesn't intercede when you smoke a cigarette (which is far more dangerous) or eat a doughnut (and we know that obesity is a much bigger problem in America than smoking dope).

    What about freedom? What about personal choice? What about the fact that there may actually be beneficial aspects to smoking pot?

    There are two arguments here: The first is that a person should be free to do to themselves what they want to do. We tolerate overeating, obesity, diabetes, self-inflicted heart disease, sloth, tattoos, sex-change operations, drinking alcohol… but draw the line at pot?

    Second, there's the utility argument: Pot's less damaging than alcohol or cigarettes, or overeating. Do you want to ban booze and cigarettes and create a "food police"? Or are you just inconsistent?

    About the only drugs I might exert some control over would be antibiotics - and that only because people taking them "until they feel better" create a breeding ground for antibiotic-resistant disease (like the antibiotic-resisitant tuberculosis that's flooding over our southern border with the invasion of criminal aliens). But if someone wants to burn up their brain, or their body or give themselves a heart attack - why is it YOUR business?

    Of course, people should be held responsible for their ACTIONS regarding other people. If you use PCP and attack someone, you go to jail. But the most common form of violence among pot smokers is ripping open a bag of Doritos. So why any penalty at all?
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  • Posted by 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As long as the shooter didn't get in trouble I'm okay with it. Hope this guy tells all his buddies about it.
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  • Posted by BambiB 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I say teach victims better marksmanship. Instead of a bullet in the leg and a bullet near the spine, how about a whole magazine in the face?

    The recidivism rate for dead criminals is precisely zero.
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  • Posted by BambiB 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The victim in this case got things under control in the best possible way - he shot his attacker. The only down side is he didn't kill him.
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  • Posted by BambiB 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, it ended for Marvell when he met a guy with a .40cal. You'll recall it ended for Trayvon Martin when George Zimmerman blew his punk ass away.

    Start killing these perps and the "game" will end.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well....there's a big difference there.. marijuana possession gets lashings (?)... (by whom? Is this Rome now?) Lethal injection doesn't inflict pain and it's usually being done to someone who's done horrible things to others repeatedly. (For the record...I wouldn't do either....well, unless the lethal injection was being administered to someone who hurt me or mine...and then I probably wouldn't opt for injection... but that's another story.)
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  • Posted by $ Hiraghm 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I would think a trained professional. They manage to find someone to administer lethal injections, don't they?
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  • Posted by 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I talked to someone a couple weeks ago who has lived in Cabodia. They still do lashings there. He told me that it is done by a martial arts expert. They are able to hit the same spot over and over again. If you pass out before the third lashing they wait for you to wake up before they finish.
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  • Posted by $ Genez 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I completely agree. We also need to revamp the sentencing laws. I know of cases where a kid is caught with marijuana given by a friend, ends up in prison and ends up becoming a criminal.. Or the 18 year old guy that has consensual sex with a 17 yr old... the parents cry rape and he has to declare sex offender for life... For life, really??? That is worse than the "scarlet letters" of the puritans.. We are creating a permanent underclass simply by the way we handle our punishment system.
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  • Posted by Mitch 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    On the money - "But I also believe that if you're sentenced to 5 years incarceration, then you shouldn't have to worry about being raped, beaten, enslaved or otherwise abused. The incarceration is your sentence, not anything the other prisoners do to you."
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  • Posted by $ Hiraghm 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm a firm believer in corporal punishment; I don't believe long-term incarceration, as much as politicians like it, does anything to deter criminals.
    But I also believe that if you're sentenced to 5 years incarceration, then you shouldn't have to worry about being raped, beaten, enslaved or otherwise abused. The incarceration is your sentence, not anything the other prisoners do to you.

    I would like to see the whipping post and stocks brought back. Say you're charged with drunk driving. You're given a choice of 30 days in jail, or a month of weekends sitting in the stocks in front of the courthouse, in full view of the public (with a guard to see you stay healthy.)

    First offense marijuana trafficking... a year in jail or 10 lashes, your choice. (not being precise, here, just giving the idea).

    This way your punishment is over and done with, you keep your job, your bills stay paid, your family is intact, and you remember it.

    Oh, and if you are given a prison sentence, and you act up... your life is forfeit. Prison riot? Just shoot them. I recently saw a video where a group of prisoners cornered a guard and were beating hell out of him. Put him in the hospital before 3 other guards could get there, and it was a free-for-all.
    Uh-uh. Firing slits in all the walls. You attack a guard, you get shot, dead. Period. Instead they just got additional time.
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  • Posted by Mitch 12 years, 5 months ago
    I’m a firm believer in equal punishment for equal crimes, or eye for an eye. Prison just a vacation now, a short stay with a warm bed, free meals and nothing to do but learn how to be better criminals. The courts have their own problems but the incarceration system needs to be changed. I say catch the thugs, erect a few stocks in the center of town, put the thug in the stock, hang a sign next to them explaining their convicted crime and then call it a free punishment zone. That would change the minds of quite a few of these idiots.
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  • Posted by khalling 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I hope this gets alot of play. Imagine if these were white youths randomly attacking people. unbelievable. and miss oprah is mute
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  • Posted by 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good one. I wonder how we can get things under control again? It is too late for some of these kids. Their next is probably a jail cell
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  • Posted by stadler178 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    But I agree--education is the key here. Kids need to see that going to school and hitting the books is a good thing that pays off in the long term in a big way. Waiting for that record deal or sports contract is far, far less likely to happen.
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  • Posted by stadler178 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Absolutely. The media needs to start making clear that blacks can engage in hate crimes, too. Overt black racism is so accepted amongst many blacks and there's this sensitivity to anything said against them (or us, I should say, in my case). They have no problem using racial slurs about their own race and other races and acting in harmony with said slurs (sometimes in extreme ways such as this). It really is an issue that needs more exposure. Nobody's earned the right to prejudice and racial hatred. There's no place for it in a free society. What? We're not heading towards that anymore? Huh. My mistake. Carry on, then...
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  • Posted by 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Education is the key to helping these kids get out but the liberals are messing that up too. At some point the media has to start reporting this with all angles covered. They seem to try to sanitize the racial elements of this story.
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  • Posted by stadler178 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Absolutely. One of the biggest things about it is that these kids travel in groups because their friends ARE their family. Family at home is bare minimum/non-existent.

    And there is absolutely an entitlement mentality--'the world owes me something' is the way to survive for some folks. Too bad they don't see that they're on the heaviest end of a sinking ship...



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  • Posted by 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I would like to know the kinds of kids that are doing this. My guess is they come from one parent homes where the one parent doesn't care where they go or what they do. This is a direct result of liberalism destroying families and giving money and material thing for no work.
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