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Obama's Massive Land Grab Has Alaska Furious: 'We Will Fight Back'

Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 3 months ago to Government
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President Obama announced Sunday that his administration plans to lock up the oil-rich 1.5 million acre Arctic National Wildlife Refuge coastal plain and offshore areas in Alaska from oil and gas exploration.

More energy and job killing land-grabs by our out of touch Dear Leader.


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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I hope your State is successful. A victory could inspire others. The mere fact that some States are starting lawsuits in various arenas is actually one of the more hopeful signs. The 1/3 can pound sand. They might as well be Tories...
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  • Posted by XenokRoy 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It took 87 years for Utah to file a case against the fed. Why so long? No backbone with our politicians for the last many years. I am frankly surprised we have done it now. A significant number of our states voters (about 1/3) think we should leave it be.

    It amazes me that even now 1/3 of people do not want to fight for our lands. we have the largest oil shell field in the world under the lands in question, not to mention the second largest reserve of coal in the same area. The potential economic impact of just those two resources is in the billions if not trillions over years of time. The feds have it all locked away doing nothing.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Very interesting. The government looters don't even legitimately own much of the land they are putting off limits. Typical... so much for government of the people, by the people, for the people... If the States haven't the will or power to assert their rights of ownership then we are truly a conquered people and State and individual sovereignty are but illusion... Federalism is but a shadow.
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  • Posted by XenokRoy 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I would tend to agree with you with one exception. Much of the federal lands do not belong to feds. They have failed to live up to contracts by which the lands would belong to the states or the people.

    I am in Utah, nearly 70% federal and nearly 100% of it illegally held by the fed. We have a suit pending against the federal government over it. They were by contract to turn those lands back over to the state in the early 1900s. Which they never have done.

    Other states have similar issues (particularly in the west) Lands which were committed to go back to states earlier in the US existence were transfers back. If you were after the turn of the century you did not get it, the feds broke their agreements.

    Even with the sale of lands to pay down debt, unless we have mind shift from a society of looters and spenders to one of producers and savers it wont matter. It is my fear that we have grown so irrationally proud that we cannot see the writing on the wall and nature will have to show us the error of our ways. Those who deserve to see it the hard way along with those like us that see it coming. We will likely be less affected by the coming collapse.

    To avert it, we must have a change in our cultural philosophy in regards to money and government.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Instead of doing what is good for a nation of individuals, the progressives are playing a game of chess hoping to do what is best for themselves and their beloved dystopian vision. They hope to corner the queen so he she has only sacrificial choices. After all they are the Kings... :(
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It has already been established. If you go to an Ivy League school, you're in, otherwise, suck hind teat.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That was only a ruse in any case. Since it was to support "free" community college, if the R's opposed, then he could portray them as not supporting "free" education, and if they came out in favor, he could lambaste them for a tax increase. Thought that most of those using 529's would be considered "rich", and didn't consider the blow-back (from many media types who use them?) of those who either use them or hope to be able to at some point.

    What many don't talk about is that under the O plan, you would receive a tax benefit when you were likely at a lower tax rate, and then be taxed on the funds taken out, when the individual was likely at a higher tax rate. Just stupid all the way around.

    We need to end all this social engineering in the tax code.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He still wants to do it, and will a find a back door way to do so. He just doesn't want to catch any more flak.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I realize these things and in no way think that we will run out of oil. I know I have not expanded on what I was trying to say, basically for simplicity sake. And as you have mentioned even if we did we would find an alternative.

    That is not my point at all. What I am trying to say is that as the middle east uses their supply of easy to access oil their supply will dwindle to the point that they have to do things to access their oil that will make it too expensive for us to be willing to buy from them. At that point the Us would then be forced by public opinion to change the laws thereby accessing our easier to access and cheaper oil. This would most likely cause a financial collapse of the middle east and much worse unrest there than we are currently seeing but that is a whole different set of issues.

    Yes I realize that the powers that be are using this move to control Americans access to inexpensive power supplies there by controlling the masses and making larger profits.

    I am just noticing a minor silver lining in this dark cloud.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Doing the right thing for the wrong reason. It's OK. Accept the right thing, reject the wrong reason. As a former mentor of mine would say, "Don't say, do."
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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello jbrenner,
    I heard last night that O has backed down on his proposal regarding 529s. Apparrently the din was so loud even he heard it.
    Regards,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello Eyecu2,
    I once worked in the oilfields and it was common knowledge that we had much more oil than the government wanted people to know about or utilize. For national security reasons many wells were capped and held in reserve. Only the most productive were being tapped. As far as peak oil is concerned and the finite resource arguments go, history has demonstrated that when a resource no longer is abundant and cost effective we develop alternatives. We have many technologies waiting in the wings now. They are not yet ready for 'prime time", but would quickly be so once the supply dwindles and the price of existing options becomes excessive.
    Here are some interesting possibilities.
    Cold Fusion Generator Small footprint October 2014:
    http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/19175...
    Abiotic Oil Theory:
    http://www.americanconservativedaily.com...
    http://amlibpub.blogspot.com/2006/12/is-... There are many such theories and a search on "Abiotic Oil" will return many hits. It is just a theory, but it is interesting and offers one possible explanation for why previously exhausted wells have been later found to be replenished.
    Also how much oil and how long it will last:
    http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp...
    Man is ingenious and will develop ways to produce more, or find alternatives when push comes to shove. As khalling has indicated, once we were about to run out of whale oil... Unfortunately there are very powerful entities that do not want the public to be aware of the abundance. Between those that wish to keep energy prices high for profit and their cronies in government as well as the environmentalists and their cronies that wish to put off-limits much of the supply, the opportunity for competition and market forces are derailed.
    Respectfully,
    O.A.





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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello jdg,
    Exactly. I believe if enough States were determined to ignore the Feds on some issues and nullify the worst of the usurpations, the Feds would back down and no bloodshed would be necessary. I hate to think that Jefferson was right and provided the only option... "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson
    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello Xenokroy,
    Good to hear from you.
    You are not alone in that prognostication. If it is inevitable, I wish it would get it over with so I can concentrate on rebuilding and moving on. I believe so many of the present circumstances we are in are results of policies that parallel those of FDR and are thus prolonging the "recession." The stats we hear from Mt. Olympus are obviously flawed. The positive indicators are cherry picked and they ignore the most important ones like household income, labor participation, national debt...
    I believe a responsible course would be to reign in this government and downsize it to the enumerated powers of the Constitution and sell off Federal land and pay down the debt with the proceeds. Instead they are taking more land...
    What do I know... I'm just a businessman...
    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 3 months ago
    I would suggest that BHO is not out-of-touch,
    but that he is anti-american. -- j

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