No civics test? No diploma.

Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 4 months ago to Culture
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This really appeals to me. Let's see how many of our high schoolers - and by virtue of instruction their teachers - know the Constitution.

I think we ought to impose something like this on anyone who wants to hold office or work for the Federal Government.


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  • Posted by RevJay4 9 years, 4 months ago
    Absolutely about time. Have needed this for a long time to counter the progs indoctrination materials.
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  • Posted by tohar1 9 years, 4 months ago
    We are PROUDLY doing the same thing here in North Dakota, but we are adding a FULL semester focused on The Constitution as well. I just hope we end up with the majority of teachers doing it justice--giving the students the information in a way that not only do they understand, but also are able to apply it to their future as well!!
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Fractional reserve banking as currently practiced by the us fed only creates money by creating debt, but expects debtors to pay back principle (created) and interest (not created.) This means that there is not enough money to pay the debt off. Some debtors by definition will not be able to pay the debt regardless of their effort. This is designed into the system. That's why i call them debt serfs.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree that cronyism dominates our system. But I don't see anyone being made "debt serfs" by businesses. If that happens it's either the tax man, or their own fault.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, I think Khalling said the same thing. Well put - few government roles can be counted on to do anymore than further government.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    To some degree that's true. But kids need to learn about the Constitution in Exile, and no government test is going to admit the truth about that.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A lot of AS was showing how corporatocracy corrupts free markets and uses government to do it. As khalling pointed out, my gripe is with looters, whether they are corporations getting advantages from government (banksters are a good example) or their government puppets. Productive businesses (like Rearden Steel in AS) don't need favors, they can compete on merit and they don't waste funding for government favors, but sometimes they have to fund intelligence agents to try to avoid being blind sided by those who use government to compete.
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  • Posted by Flootus5 9 years, 4 months ago
    Just like surveys, the outcome is dependent on the phrasing and content of the questions. Imagine comparing a test written by the Joe Foss Institute and one written by the Young Turks!
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You mean that collective group? I think he is referring to Central Banking and crony Big Business. We do not operate in pure capitalism after all. Plenty of businesses abuse this and deserve criticism
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 4 months ago
    It's pretty clear Arizonans need to learn this stuff, or they'd never have elected Joe Arpaio.
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yea but who is writing the test? I can see it now - "the purpose of the 1st Amendment is ...."
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years, 4 months ago
    I like the "it will do nothing to make good citizens", except teach them what one is, and explain their rights in a manner less simple to manipulate by the lying left!
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  • Posted by wiggys 9 years, 4 months ago
    if the students are given the information of what is on the test during the teaching year maybe they will learn something about the country. However, I would like to see the first test questions.
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  • Posted by helidrvr 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You're right, it is absolutely a statist move towards implementation of the Common Core curriculum. It is not up to you or me to tell other parents what to teach their children, or up to others to tell you or me what to teach ours. Remember always that your reasoned opinion of "understanding" something may be very different from theirs.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 4 months ago
    I have been saying for years that a requirement for running or being appointed to any of the three branches of government would be the need for the person in question to pass a test on the Constitution. And while they're at it, a test on economics and history. I doubt that many would pass. Perhaps a judge or two, a couple of congressmen, and a couple of senators. Definitely no one in the executive branch.
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  • Posted by rhecat 9 years, 4 months ago
    When I was in 8th grade we had to be able to recite the preamble to the constitution or we couldn't graduate. Then when I was in high school we had a civics class after which I became motivated to register to vote(It had just become law that when you turned 18 you could register to vote-by the way I had to present proof of citizenship as part of the process)
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  • Posted by InfamousEric 9 years, 4 months ago
    Though I'm all for high school kids knowing & UNDERSTANDING the Constitution.

    Why would a LAW be required to make this happen?

    This seems like a Statist solution.
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  • Posted by helidrvr 9 years, 4 months ago
    This civics test requirement is just one more piece of Common Core and the effort to brainwash your children into becoming mindlessly obedient drones. It makes me want to throw up.

    Below is a gripping 2 hour video which I challenge any one of you to watch to the end. It will change your outlook on the public school system forever and possibly encourage you to save your children's lives.

    http://youtu.be/Si-kx5-MKSE
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 9 years, 4 months ago
    I also missed the question on the current governor of Arizona but seeing as I live in Texas that is forgivable.

    As a high school algebra teacher I see one small problem with this suggestion. All of the high schools that I have had experience with dump their coaches into those teaching positions. Not trying to pigeon hole them as dumb jocks and some of those teachers are able to handle this but MANY would require MASSIVE changes to adjust.

    Please do not mistake me in this, I think this would be a good thing, but it would require effort that I doubt they (the schools) are willing to give.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Reading the Constitution followed by an exam (with in-depth questions better than like than how many amendments do we have) should be a requirement
    in all 50 states. Do this during the senior high school year.
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  • Posted by eddieh 9 years, 4 months ago
    This would be a great requirement to register to vote in every state election with you photo ID.
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  • Posted by jimjamesjames 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have a Masters and Doctorate in Education. There is nothing wrong with memorization. Memorization provides the "building blocks" to understanding, the "bricks in the wall," if you will, to putting it all together. The "but it's only memorized" canard is the scam that promotes "but they must UNDERSTAND" without giving a foundation from which to understand.
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