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  • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks, woodlema, but that's a stretch, still, and when you have to go even a bit beyond Definition #1 to map the situation to the discussion, the ice gets thin. 2a? Antagonizing someone is "war"...?

    Ok, --- if you say so... :)
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What other side? If you walk down the street reciting the Declaration of Independence, and someone tackled you, wouldn't they be in the wrong just for thinking you might be a "threat?"
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "How was he to know that the man had a legal carry license?"

    Let's see: automobiles kill thousands more innocent people annually then handguns do, but how would you know if that driver sitting in front of you at the red light is licensed to be driving that killing machine?

    You could put your car into PARK...walk up to the suspected illegal driver...tap on his window, and try to pull him out of his 'weapon' by his throat, and maybe save the rest of us!

    Or...if that driver is doing something that alarms you, you can report it to someone that has the authority to investigate.

    Same thing here....

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  • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Allow me to disagree. If you follow the hype created by the Bloomberg organization, including Moms Demand Action, you will instantly recognize their tactic. There is absolutely nothing noble in their actions. In fact, they are designed to bring terror. These creeps have been practicing "swatting" people just because they open carry (still a Constitutional right, I believe) and if, by any chance, this particular creep really wanted to "save" people, he would have been calling the police from the parking lot and not attacking inside Wal-Mart, so as to get maximum media coverage. Personally, I am sorry that the attacked gentleman turned out to be such a gentleman. Hope he gets better advice from his lawyers.
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  • Posted by sumitch 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My point is not that the man didn't have the right to carry the gun. I fully support the 2nd amendment but it seems that there is another side to the discussion.
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  • Posted by sumitch 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    With all the hype on TV about nut job killings it seems that some consideration should be given to the "attacker" doing what he thought might be stopping another mass killing. What would be the screams and breast beatings had the carrier pull out the pistol and killed a few people? I doubt that the man was trying to get his picture on the front page.

    Sure all the above are noble. Why then is a man thinking that he might be protecting others from getting killed noble?
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  • Posted by woodlema 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am often disappointed by the lack of understanding of the English language and lack of knowledge of the definitions of words when used in a specific context.

    Words have meanings, differing by context. Please note Merriam Websters definitions of War, in particular 2a and 2 b.

    Full Definition of WAR
    1a (1) : a state of usually open and declared armed hostile conflict between states or nations (2) : a period of such armed conflict (3) : state of war
    b : the art or science of warfare
    c (1) obsolete : weapons and equipment for war (2) archaic : soldiers armed and equipped for war

    2a : a state of hostility, conflict, or antagonism
    b : a struggle or competition between opposing forces or for a particular end <a class war> <a war against disease>
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  • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "No such thing as "unnecessary force" in wartime. "

    Was war declared in that Walmart????
    Did I miss the headlines or the 10pm news?
    WAR?
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  • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Just another white extremist...
    Hey, and nobody played the reverse-race card here?
    Where's the Reverends when they're needed?
    /sarc.
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  • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You're saying FOSTER was the victim we should have compassion for? Huh?

    Oh, wait... was that <ironic font>?
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  • Posted by woodlema 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No such thing as "unnecessary force" in wartime.
    Gen Patton said it best in my opinion. "You don't win a war by dying for your country, you win by making the other poor bastard die for his."

    If someone is stupid enough to attack me and/or my family I must assume this day in age the following:
    1) They intend to harm or kill my family
    2) They are not mentally sound and need put down since you cannot reason with the crazy.
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  • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, in this case, it would have been a black gentleman shooting a white thug. Who could argue with that?
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Don't be so sure that the public would be in agreement that the shooting was justified. It would all come down to the skin color of the individuals involved.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 3 months ago
    So now it's OK to attack an individual for exercising their 2nd amendment rights, and legally (albeit constitutionally unnecessary, in my opinion) registered weapon? I wonder when the same will be true for the 1st amendment (or is it already, hard to tell?).
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm glad you weren't the target, then. Unnecessary force hurts our cause and is a bad idea, even if you would have prevailed in court.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "That's what I thought too."
    My thought too. He probably was an idiot, rather than an ideologue with a plan. At least he got arrested and that no one got hurt.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "The first thing I wondered was if the store had a sign that said no guns allowed."
    When I lived in FL, such signs did not affect permit holders' right to carry a gun under FL law.
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