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It’s Not a Corrupted Version… it IS Islam!

Posted by UncommonSense 10 years, 5 months ago to Politics
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Warning: Don't read if you're afraid to know the TRUTH. (Take your blue pill). For everyone else, swallow the red pill & open your eyes to the reality of what is REALLY going on. Nope, you won't find this on the elitist-controlled MSM.


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  • Posted by woodlema 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A Christian can not be accused of any wrongdoing. Romans 8:33

    Again WRONG, a Christian who is accused has a VERY specific process to make the accusation of wrongdoing. It is bearing FALSE witness that is condemned.

    Matthew 18:15-17 15 “Moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go lay bare his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he does not listen, take along with you one or two more, in order that at the mouth of two or three witnesses every matter may be established. 17 If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation. If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector.
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  • Posted by woodlema 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Let us address these quotes IN context and see how your argument falls apart.


    You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20
    16 “Now in case a man seduces a virgin who is not engaged, and he actually lies down with her, he is to obtain her without fail as his wife for the purchase price. 17 If her father flatly refuses to give her to him, he is to pay over the money at the rate of purchase money for virgins.
    18 “You must not preserve a sorceress alive.
    19 “Anyone lying down with a beast is positively to be put to death.
    20 “One who sacrifices to any gods but Jehovah alone is to be devoted to destruction.
    21 “And you must not maltreat an alien resident or oppress him, for YOU people became alien residents in the land of Egypt.
    22 “YOU people must not afflict any widow or fatherless boy. 23 If you should afflict him at all, then if he cries out to me at all, I shall unfailingly hear his outcry; 24 and my anger will indeed blaze, and I shall certainly kill YOU with the sword, and YOUR wives must become widows and YOUR sons fatherless boys.

    This was part of the Mosaic law covenant and applied ONLY to the Jews. The Jews were a people who VOWED to NOT worship any other gods, so on this point YOUR WRONG.


    Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10
    kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16
    6 “In case your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or your daughter or your cherished wife or your companion who is like your own soul, should try to allure you in secrecy, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ whom you have not known, neither you nor your forefathers, 7 some of the gods of the peoples who are all around YOU, the ones near you or those far away from you, from one end of the land to the other end of the land, 8 you must not accede to his wish or listen to him, nor should your eye feel sorry for him, nor must you feel compassion, nor cover him [protectively]; 9 but you should kill him without fail. Your hand first of all should come upon him to put him to death, and the hand of all the people afterward. 10 And you must stone him with stones, and he must die, because he has sought to turn you away from Jehovah your God, who has brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slaves. 11 Then all Israel will hear and become afraid, and they will not do anything like this bad thing again in your midst.
    Again this applied to the Jews, please READ IN CONTEXT!!!, This was also just after God had taken them out of Eqypt.
    Next these cities in the “Promised land, were people who sacrificed to Moloc. They threw babies into the fire as sacrifices. Again in context there was a judgment on the BAD vile behavior of the people being conquered, and these scriptures were closed ended and applied only to them at that time.
    Again Your wrong.
    I could go on and on and when you place the Bible in context there is a HUGE difference between it and Islam in which ALL its writings are open ended and to be applied by believers as anytime anyplace.
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  • Posted by plusaf 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    could be, but i'm not sure I understand the parallel you're drawing. Some Jews don't 'keep Kosher' and some Catholics probably eat non-fish protein on Fridays, though I don't have any direct, memorable experience of that. I just don't notice (or have dinner often enough with Catholics to notice.) :)

    A Jew who keeps Kosher might refuse to eat at someone's home who doesn't follow the rituals, but it would be a social-cultural-religious disagreement, not one for civil or criminal courts. Likewise the Fish Business, I'd guess...

    And people say that Sharia Law is only for civil cases, but news reports seem to keep coming up where some Islamist goes out and "convinces" someone else that they Must Obey Sharia Law Or Else.... by killing them. That goes beyond a civil disagreement and into criminal activity, by many OTHER legal systems' definitions.

    Of course, if you choose the definitions correctly, one can 'prove' almost any case. Maybe that's it... :)
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It would be something similar to Jews breaking Kosher "laws" or Catholics eating fish on Fridays during lent. You couldn't make a legal case, and if the individual didn't agree to observing any sanction, then it would not have any effect. Just my opinion.
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  • Posted by plusaf 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sorry, but I don't imagine that happening so simply or easily. The premise of the scenario is that there would be a difference of choice there that just might recur in a nice, neat irreconcilable way...

    Time will tell.
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  • Posted by plusaf 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've been to Switzerland and would not consider it to be a good example. In fact, unless a lot has changed, there are FOUR languages in use in Switzerland, depending on whether you're in the north, south, east or west.

    I can see a logical reason for multiple language signs if the rationale is something like 'making things more comfortable for tourists, so they bring and spend more money,' but for 'cultural reasons' apparently driven by immigration and population concentrations of folks unwilling or unable to assimilate?

    I think that's a different situation.

    And, of course, open to discussion! :D
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  • Posted by plusaf 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sorry.. I wasn't clear... picture a scenario where an Islamist wants to sue a non-Muslim over some issue which just might be covered under Sharia Law but not covered by Civil Law?

    Who chooses the venue and who can refuse or object?

    If the venue is agreed upon, if one of the parties does not like the judgment or the settlement or whatever, how do they choose the legal system under which to Appeal the first decision...?

    And so on....
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  • Posted by plusaf 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And you woulda coulda thought that US leaders MIGHT have taken a lesson from the Russians' "experience" in Afghanistan, too... but hey... who are WE to comment?
    :(
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  • Posted by plusaf 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I recall seeing some decade or two back, that Ike's original manuscript for that speech included "Educational Complex" along with Military and Industrial. Apparently redacted before the speech was made.

    I think making that change to the warning was a mistake. He got it right the first time, and we're still paying for the ignored influence.
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  • Posted by plusaf 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I believe that the German items weren't really 'missiles,' in that they had less than rudimentary target-seeking ability once launched.

    that smacks of 'random targeting of civilians' to me, not any effort to pinpoint military installations.
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  • Posted by sumitch 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A buddy and I and sometimes my son go to Ft. Sill each year about June for the OCS Reunion. It's a great gathering of several hundred fellow artillery officers lasting about four days. The highlight is a live fire demonstration of the big guns and tactical rockets. There are a couple of evening cocktail gatherings and a formal dinner with entertainment. We lost our last man from WW I three years ago but still have quite a few from WW II, Vietnam and forward. I'm pretty impressed with the "youngsters" volunteers, their indepth knowledge of artillery warfare and their patriotism. I think we are being well served by these people.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    1 Timothy 6:10 - But those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful desires which plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

    When looking at the whole passage it is clear that Timothy was indicating that loving money may lead to various evils, not that it was the only source of evil. As I indicated, the love of power is another source of evil.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They cannot choose sharia over existing law, only on things that aren't covered by secular law. And the punishments cannot themselves violate secular law.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello to a fellow air defender. My first platoon was Vulcan/Stinger (well, actually RedEye, but we changed over in about 2 months), then I was scheduled to go to Patriot officer school when I got out.
    I got out just before they started paying guys to get out.
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  • Posted by sumitch 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oh good grief. Is that anything but you trying to keep your arguing with everything going?
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  • Posted by sumitch 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's a lot like the DNC saying it's OK for Allahbama to do it because Bush did it. I'd love someone to ask if Obama is planning on any sky diving.
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  • Posted by sumitch 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Following the tenants of the Catholics or Jews; not eating meat on Friday (I thought that had been abandoned) or not eating pork doesn't mandate killing infidels.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It doesn't say to go out and destroy them. And God destroyed S&G, so that would indicate that it is up to God's wrath to evoke penalty.
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