Did you ever notice that some brains never fully develop? I can assure you that in my middle age I have met more than one (then) teenager who was brighter and overall better thinker than I ever became. It is each individual, dear AG. Grouping is almost always counterproductive or even damaging. Just my opinion.

Interesting discussion on vaccinations. I am in a related medical field (companion animal veterinary medicine) and rejoice that our durations of immunity are being challenged. Instead of annual vaccinations the expert committee recomends vaccinations every three years for companion animals. After ten years of the increased interval the committee wil likley recommend every five years. There are predictable side effects that occur in some breeds of dogs and cats that are vaccine related. But this doesn't mean that vaccines should be discontinued. I agree that modified live virus vaccines are scary and the trend in veterinary medicine is to the move to killed vaccine. Also, there are now a plethora of vaccines marketed for dogs and cats - most are not needed. BUT, the diseases do exist and the question becomes risk of exposure vs risk of side effects vs consequences of the disease. I remember as a kid childern in "iron lungs" and others with leg braces from polio. Clearly the vaccine reduced the incidence to nearly zero in the US. Rabies is not something you want to risk - you die. For those at risk of exposure get the vaccine. Life is a bell shaped curve - not many black and white issues. For my health I ask my health care provider "what is the background incidence of the disease for which you want to vaccinate me and what are the risks of the vaccine." I haven't had a flu shot in years - to hard to predict what strain will be around. I vaccinate my dogs and cats every three to five years with the core vaccine if I can remember to do it - and I have selective memory loss. Bottom line - its risk vs reward and deciding what risks you are willing to take is the question. This is an indivdual decision - not something that is government mandated.

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no one should have the power to compel any innocent
person to take poisonous chemicals into their body --
or any other chemicals, for that matter. . the parents
must lead on child care, and we DO hope that
there are parents who care!!! -- j

Just bought a bottle of the single barrel.
Holy moley, it's good!

Discussing suicide presumes that the chemotherapy will work and alternatives won’t.

Chemo is considered in some circles of discussion to be only 3% effective. Destroys cancer cells for awhile, and then destroys the body.

Unfortunately, most people who try alternatives have first been treated with “Slash, burn, poison” and have severely damaged their immune system before partaking in methods to enhance it.

Dr. Wakefield was unfairly railroaded for political and financial reasons. His partner in the studies was forced to spend a fortune challenging the revocation of his medical license, and won. Dozens of independent studies worldwide have since confirmed his findings, but the mainstream media won't tell you that. The following article reports that our country's national vaccine court has held in several cases that vaccines caused autism. I guess they're in on the "fraud," too? Scroll to the end of the article to read a list of 28 studies from around the world that confirm Dr. Wakefield’s research: http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/new-pub...

You repeat the mainstream propaganda that "Parents who won't vaccinate their kids cause outbreaks." Proof? I've read of outbreaks of the vaccine strain of whooping cough, which could only be caused by vaccinated children -- but were still blamed on those who were unvaccinated, because that is more useful to those in control of the media and medical field. "Among live virus vaccines being used in the U.S. and other countries are measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox (varicella zoster), live virus (nasal spray) flu vaccine, shingles vaccine, and the rotavirus vaccine that’s given to infants for diarrhea. When you or your child gets a live virus attenuated vaccine, you can shed vaccine strain live virus in your body fluids, and the vaccine strain virus could potentially be transmitted to others, in whom it might cause serious complications. Unfortunately, many doctors are not even aware of this risk." from http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articl...

You can call names all you want, but if you are able to keep an open mind and look at facts, there's plenty of evidence to prove that vaccines are both unsafe and ineffective You've challenged the link to autism unsuccessfully by repeating smears of Dr. Wakefield's integrity, but you've ignored all the other health issues medical professionals have said are caused by vaccination, in the list of studies I linked in my first comment.

The rate of autism is now one in 88 children (or even more prevalent, according to some sources). What do those of you who are pro-vaccine believe is the cause of this dramatic increase in autism rates?

Then, for sure, you cannot explain why, or prove in a rational manner, that vaccines are safe.

No one can.

Can you explain why no vaccine is 100% effective?

bastard

You're a very important person on the internet.

They're two completely unrelated questions.

How can you reasonably acknowledge that no vaccine is 100% effective and, simultaneously assert that vaccines are safe?

Ha, ha! Good for you both.

good thoughts on the home front. can you guys cash and carry

The idea that vaccines cause autism began as a deliberate fraud by Dr. Andrew Wakefield, who rightly lost his license to practice medicine in Britain as a result. Here's an explanation by the reporter who dug it all up: http://cbriandeer.com/mmr/lancet-summary...

Parents who won't vaccinate their kids cause outbreaks because no vaccine is 100% effective. Keeping their kids out is simply a necessity. They're idiots!

A related story in Reason just now: http://reason.com/blog/2015/01/13/measle...

db is ok with that. he knows I have my importante personas :)))

AG - a dictator is a dictator. He tells you what to od, or else. You have no choice or input. The idea that the dictator thinks he's doing something for a good reason does not sanitize the "dictator" label.