Joe Sacco Response To Jihadist Attacks On Satirists
hey, Euda, can we interview you on this-after all, you are a satirist: http://www.papapossum.com/
I would really appreciate your thoughts on killings and how we move forward in the World under this type of terrorism
I would really appreciate your thoughts on killings and how we move forward in the World under this type of terrorism
Look up Gates of Vienna.
Study Islam...
Islam and the West are completely and totally incompatible.
I have no issue with any people existing and believing whatever they wish, I'll even listen to them and debate them, until they want me dead for simply being.
Frankly, environmentalists are hypocrites since any humans existence (housing, transportation, electricity), including their own and their methods, soil their hallowed environment.
Reminder: The Crusades were retaliatory for islamic aggression and then capitalistic to fill the coffers of individual kinships and the Vatican..
Now if we're talking overall:
Age.
Nature/disease
Humans.
Here are my initial thoughts on the Charlie Hebdo attack.
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A first point: personal context.
I did not find out about the Charlie Hebdo attack until a full day after it had happened.
I have been very busy, to the exclusion of many other things, with two major projects.
The first is a contract I'm working on.
This is taking the majority of my time.
The second is a new satire I will be posting early next month.
These two projects have allowed me to take in only a surface understanding of the attack: I still have not looked into anything of yesterday's hostage stand-off.
However, I think that I have enough of an understanding to enter the discussion.
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A second point: my current satire project.
I currently have thirty-eight satires posted at http://papapossum.com
It has really started to bother me that all but a few of them are written in the same meter.
There is something to be said for developing a style, but there is also something to be said about not letting that style become a crutch and then a prison.
This new piece intentionally breaks from that usual style - I have one other piece written in the same manner.
I consider this new piece, at the risk of sounding pompous, to be very important.
I want it written.
I want it written correctly.
And I want it written on time (it has a very specific post-by date).
Because of the technical demands and the due date of the piece, any consideration of a beginning a new satire, even one on the Charlie Hebdo attack, must be put on the back burner,
I do, however, plan to write something about the Charlie Hebdo attack.
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A third point: "Je suis Charlie Hebdo".
I want to state this carefully so that it is not misunderstood.
I personally am "drawing the line" at declaring "I am Charlie Hebdo".
I am not: I am a satirist.
Logically stated: Squares and rectangles are quadrilaterals, but rectangles are not squares.
It is my understanding that Charlie Hebdo was a far left publication.
Do I support their right to satirize: absolutely.
Do I support their right to publish leftist pap: conditionally - as long as they support my right not to read it or agree with it.
Am I outraged at the attack - as a satirist, yes... but not as a far left satirist.
I am more comfortable in declaring, "Je suis une satiriste."
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A fourth point: my satire and islam
I only have one piece which mentions islam, "Ten Years Gone" (http://papapossum.blogspot.com/2011/09/t...).
It is an ode for marking the tenth year since the World Trade Center attacks.
The thrust of the piece is not islam, but rather how our ruling class whitewash islam - much how the globalist leadership all over the world do the same.
In my opinion, islam is a know quantity: anyone who can't see it for what it is (an ultra-violent manifest-destiny theology) is being willingly naive and, for survival reasons, is to be dismissed.
So, to me, there is no point in satirizing islam: it is what it is.
There is, however, a point in satirizing the whitewashers and the willingly naive.
When I get to writing a piece on the Charlie Hebdo attack, that's the approach I will be taking,
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A fifth point: my satire and islamists.
My Papa Possum twitter account (https://twitter.com/papapossum) does not have that many followers (currently 33).
One, possibly two of those followers are recent and both appear to be islamists.
I think that it's a safe assumption that he/they have read the "Ten Years Gone" piece and is/are "monitoring" my account.
I didn't bother to block he/them because that too would be pointless.
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A final point: the cartoon you posted.
I have not seen the cartoons which Charlie Hebdo published, so I can't determine the "offense level" of them.
However, to me this particular cartoon is an apologist piece, and a bit absurdist: blacks did not sit in trees with bananas,
jews did not count money while wallowing in entrails.
Islamists, however, are ultra-violent.
To me, the cartoonist is one of the willingly naive to be dismissed for the sake of survival.
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I am open to other further questions.
I will get to them when I can throughout the day (see point 1)
Thanks, K, for starting this thread.
1. Let's say some far-left group saw your satires and were offended enough to let you know how they felt. Shooting you in the street, is probably not likely. But let's say you started receiving threats from an enviro-terrorist group or the Occupy Wall street bunch for example. Would that at all affect how and what you wrote?
2. To that point, your satire hits a nerve with a large group of people and a powerful government. Do you ever worry you could be targeted, even indirectly (the man who shoulders the blame to this day for the Benghazi attack) by the US government?
Agreed, blacklisting and vilification are more their speed.
Although, in the 70's, leftists here and in Europe were not opposed to terrorist "direct action", just ask Obama's buddy Ayers.
1b) "Would that at all affect how and what you wrote?"
That's hard to say: I would like to think that I would be brave and noble.
Looking objectively at my past and my previous reactions to aggression, I would probably respond with a scorched earth piece on whoever threatened me.
2a) "your satire hits a nerve with a large group of people and a powerful government"
If the specific nerve you refer to is "indifference", I would have to agree with you.
Seriously, I doubt very many people read my satire.
But, I write because I have to.
As Juvenal wrote: "It is difficult not to write satire. For who is so tolerant of the wicked city, so steeled, that he can restrain himself."
2b) "Do you ever worry you could be targeted, even indirectly ... by the US government?"
There have been many pieces about which, right before posting, I have confessed to my wife - this is the one that's going to prompt the "knock on the door".
To date - nothing, and I'm sure, just as I'm sure that they really don't care, that it will remain that way.
However, if I ever do get that "knock on the door", I will try very hard to concentrate on the benefit of having gained what little "street cred" there is to gain.
Little Billy Pipebomb
A commentary on the life and times
of a friend of The New Regime,
Mr. Bill Ayers.
Little Billy Pipebomb
had a very misspent youth,
forecasting Weather Underground,
a terrorist for “Truth”.
He and his buddies set their sights
to take the system down,
then bombed the cops and then
The Congress and The Pentagon.
Billy never went to prison
'cause he took it on the lam,
and while he hid the things he did
he hatched some other plans,
like teaching Marx to kids,
launching political careers,
a fuzzy “reformed” terrorist
with a bunch of crazy years.
But on the day The Towers fell,
there in The New York Times,
was Little Billy Pipebomb's wish
he had done further crimes.
His policies are in our schools,
he's launched a President,
yet no one talks of Billy Pipebomb
and his very youth misspent.
Little Billy Pipebomb, Copyright © 2009 Papa Possum
Ayers probably deserves another one.
With photos encouraged, since I don't like my meat ripe.
If an Islamic terrorist can do that, why can't another prehistoric monster?
Yeah, yeah! Ayers is a Marxist terrorist. I know that.
So is Obama in his own way.
Hmmm, if Obama showed up with his Secret Service--what a banquet!
I am dino!
Hear me roar!
Definitely "Aeneas", everything about that piece from the subject matter, to the allegory, to the intention, down to the meter used was intended to be a gauntlet thrown down.
"Foreign and Domestic" for obvious reasons.
Any of the pieces which point out the growing tyranny such as "Leviathan", "Historia Dea Stili", "Stick and Stones", and "Black Hat Realtors".
Any of the pieces which illustrate the divide between ruling class and country class, but especially "Radio Free America", "Breaking Bread", "The Basement Shelf", and "Rice".
So, as you can guess, I go to my wife quite often with the "knock on the door" concern. ;)
"Black Hat Realtors" reminds me how I see modern day left wing threat-hackers
"We are waging a war, not a war against a religion, not a war of civilizations, but one to defend our values, which are universal. It is a war against terrorism and radical Islamism, against all who would smash solidarity, liberty, and fraternity. We must defend secularism, without compromise, as has too often happened."
(source - http://www.francesoir.fr/politique-franc... )
Anyone who still calls the French cowards may want to rethink that. Our country could have fought back as well as they, but has done mostly stupid things like create the TSA instead.
I had similar thoughts about the comic on the link, but thought I was misunderstanding something. Kh, what did you think of it?
All of you who write about non pc subject matter honestly and openly are to be commended on your dedication, your bravery and your determination to shine a light on reality.
The deaths due to vitamin A deficiency are almost totally preventable - Greenpeace has been single handedly blocking golden rice since about 2000. DDT is one of the safest chemicals ever developed - you can eat teaspoonfulls of it without coming to harm. The use of this inexpensive insecticide has been blocked by Greenpeace and other environmental organizations since the 1970's.
So: Who is the monster? Islam, which causes 300,000 deaths per year or Greenpeace, whose tole is twice that number? But that's OK. I mean, it is just mostly children, right?
Jan
Jan
It's going to do a lot of good for "world leaders" to march arm and arm down the streets in Paris. Nothing that is being done to destroy the root cause of the attacks around the world killing thousands of people. Sure there have been a few killings stopped, but nothing of real consequence. Muslims have attacked and killed millions over the centuries and the only thing that has ever stopped them is to wipe them out. Apparently our PC society feels that this so called religion has some Allah given right to kill all infidels or at a minimum subjugate them into virtual slavery. There is only one way to bring these pigs under control.
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A belief is neither truth nor fact, by DEFINITION! (it's 2 am and I've been sipping some cheap cognac)
Muslims, no less than Christians, et al., BELIEVE... and that is their excuse, rationale, justification to do absurdly irrational things which include murder, demand adherence to folk tales, insistence on certain propriety (no drinking, smoking -- I got my Masters at BYU) and commitment to seriously questionable BS.
The greatest freedom is to have an excuse for absurdities and BELIEVING is the best available, has existed since conscious thought and is still accepted by..... well, idiots.
I'm two time zones ahead of you and usually chocolate is my drug of choice. :)
Enjoy!
Wait... BYU offers a Master's in drinking and smoking?! Wow! :)
My BSEE is from RPI and I wasn't introduced to Ayn Rand or Atlas Shrugged until about two years out of college at my first Real Job. It's been a fun ride ever since...
I first read AR at age 21 (50 years ago) and am still amazed that anyone could write "what I thought."
In the meantime, I'm going to go get some hot chocolate for my cognac............
And I might mention, it was a great educational experience (except for them trying to get me married off to a Mormon woman --or two) LOL....
If you are just feeding me shit..... nice try....
You also have the problem of consideration. Jim paid for his education. and they came back and said you get this plus these extra rules-none of which had any bearing on performing to the contract. A big question might be what you do on campus reflects on us. what you are doing off campus reflects on you. He was not representing Mormons. That said, you have a valid argument here.
You can disagree with those criterion if you choose to, and to that I have no disagreement. However, when you outwardly voice agreement and inwardly refute such agreement, that is hypocritical.
into the sea??? -- j
"coexist" bumper sticker on each of their
machine-gun-equipped pickup trucks!!! -- j
I'm sure that you were monitoring the exchange between LS and myself. Where was I wrong?