Oscar Mayer has a way with b-o-l-o-g-n-a.

Hahaha goober.

lol, yep.

Yeah... I don't get where the angry atheist stuff is coming from. Angry about what?

Some philosophies are not based on logic and reality. I like things to make sense.

I wasn't offended. I was pointing out an error.
You BELIEVE it offers a solution.. (wait..a solution to what?)... it's comforting to you to "believe", based on faith, but not proof. This belief is not based in reality it's based on a hopeful emotion.. Living my life based in reality is the life I'm certain about, right now. Reality. :)
Did you sing b o l o g n a ?

bologna (haven't spelled this in years)...during life any philosophy has the same purpose - to guide a person through life. Unlike atheism and objectivity a religious philosophy offers a solution for afterlife.

You are right about my initial statement, I should have worded it more precisely. Again, it wasn't my intention to offend anyone.

Oh. Okay. Well, I don't have to worry about any of that.

You never said "after life" in your original statement.
And religion is not just mysticism after death.. they are mystics in life..

No, that's why I say I don't know what those %'s are. But "by their fruits shall ye know them", and anyone who doesn't believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, that He lived a perfect life, died to take the punishment for our sins on the cross, and that in Him alone is the way to salvation, eternal life, and reconciliation with The Holy and Perfect God... anyone who doesn't believe that at a minimum is certainly not a Christian. And there's a lot of people out there who call themselves Christian that don't believe that.

You didn't address A). And agreed on the feel good coexist number stickers. Labeling themselves a non thinking idiot.

No... they're lying to everybody else.
And how do you know what believers believe? Mind reader?

You're twisting what I said to suit what you want to say...AFTER LIFE. During life, living a certain way, religious or atheist, is a philosophy. When you die is when "mysticism" and the faith comes in. No?

I was not and would never suggest yours or anyones life was nothingness.

B) Yes I know they're lying to themselves, that's exactly why I said they're not true Muslims. They're the ones I'm not worried about nearly as much as the true believers in Islam.

C) I'm not comparing them, if you knew who I was and my background trust me, you wouldn't think I'm saying they're similar on any level. Those "coexist" bumper stickers make me want to pull that useful idiot out of their car, grab them by the neck and say "HOW DO YOU COEXIST WITH A RELIGION THAT WILL MURDER YOU, ME, YOUR FAMILY, AND MY FAMILY, IF WE DON'T CONVERT TO ISLAM?" And if they give me any crap after that I'd also like to ask them to go tell my friends' family in Northern Iraq right now to "coexist" with them, because it must be an equally valid religion...

My whole point is to say there's people all over who say they're believers, but aren't.

We believe in this life, what we KNOW is real. Thinking minds, making your own happiness, taking care of your life, joy in life, learning, living THIS life and not sacrificing it for another maybe life... that is not "nothingness". My life is not nothingness. The possibility of an after life is a big maybe...and big maybes are possibility nothingness.

Exactly... there's no hate here.

A) I'm not a dude.
B) slaying the non believers is the premise of the Quran. Any of them who say differently are lying to shield themselves. C)Why do you insist on comparing Christianity with islam? I don't understand the point if that....Although true Christians have committed their share of brutality in history. Priests mostly. Whatever a "true" Christian is anyway.... everybody thinks they're a good person no matter who you ask so who's the judge? What's the criteria? And also, to what end, ....and who cares???

Question (seriously): What do you believe happens AFTER you die?

I suspect you and many other would say "Nothing, you're done; this is why you take ownership of and make the most of your life."

So my saying nothingness isn't inaccurate is it? God and faith may direct the conduct of the living BUT its an insurance policy against the void/non-existence. What does atheism or objectivity offer after death? Nothing. So how could I possibly offend anyone in saying nothingness?

I'll probably piss you off when I say this, and you won't believe me, but the problem isn't that you don't believe in God, it's that you hate God. There's more than ample evidence, and atheists wish He would just "give a sign" or "prove it", but the Bible is full of people who said the same thing directly to Jesus, and they didn't believe in him. He didn't fit into what *they* thought He should be. We're all like that naturally.

Oh I misread... thought you were saying Christians believe in nothingness

Dude... I fully understand Islam. What I am saying is, there are Muslims, and there are Muslims. 90-95% or more of the Muslims in the US, and probably 70% or more in the world, if it came down to it, would not lay down their life for Islam, AND, if the opportune time came to overthrow a fundamentalist Islam government, without sticking their necks out, would gladly do so.

The other few percent, they're the dangerous ones, because they believe the crap that the Koran says, "slay the unbeliever wherever they are", etc.

I don't know the true percentages for Christians, but I guarantee you more than 50% aren't truly Christians. But at least those that ARE true Christians would never do the disgusting things we see in the fundamentalist Islamists.

Yes

Um, who else flies off the handle?? Any random angry unmediated nut job perhaps. Why are you lumping atheists in with nut jobs?

I'm just not sure how you can possibly hate something you're convinced doesn't exist.