Court takes couple’s children because father is transgender

Posted by Maphesdus 12 years, 7 months ago to Politics
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Apparently a man isn't fit to be a father if he was born female... -_-

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  • Posted by Boborobdos 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Tell us Hiraghm, what is the "homosexual agenda?"

    Do you approve of kids picking on someone because they have two mothers or fathers? I'm sure all a gay couple wants is for their kids to not be picked on. It's not the kid's fault who their parents are. Why is it an "agenda" to demand that a kid be treated decently?
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  • Posted by Boborobdos 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Mitch says: "this issue does affect me and my family directly as it effects our society as a whole."

    Really? How so? Are you or your neighbor going to marry the German Sheppard down the street? Are you going to divorce your wife? How does any paring of consenting adults impact your life. Please be specific. Something like maybe your car will magically need high test instead of regular? Just what kind of a difference are you talking about?
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hellooooo?? 98% of the public is heterosexual.. You just have to get use to it will always be on the fringe to be ‘different’. In fact, this need to stick a gay couple in every new show is a real turn-off. It’s over-kill and will end up hurting the gay community rather than helping. It will make being different a fad.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes....crud, I thought I told you that I wish I had realized the last episode was what I was watching when I watched it. There was 2 more things on the list to watch so I assumed there was two more episodes. I couldn't figure how they could kill off Spartacus and still have two more. (The other 2 were behind the scenes or something stuff). I was sad to have it end...but then I discovered Viking...so that took the edge off. :)
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  • Posted by Mitch 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have to also add that you are 100% incorrect in regards to the portrait of homosexuals on TV. A disproportionate number of sitcoms, (un)reality TV and about anything else on TV has a homosexual representation. My wife watches this stuff and I see it all of the time. The Bravo network, Food Channel, Amazing Race, the list goes on… Hell, you even have a network that caters to the LBGT community – LOGO TV. I think your argument is simply fishing for sympathy, nothing more when the facts don’t support your argument.

    I think you are making my argument for me as you wish the world will accept the LBGT community. My point is you can’t force this upon everyone, forcing acceptance is never good. Look within your community and ask why the LBGT community isn’t accepted openly; it’s the tactics being used…

    Let me illustrate with a thought exercise, this involves polygamy… The argument goes if you allow same sex marriages, how come people can’t marry more than one partner? The same arguments apply to both sides, what right does anyone have in telling me who I can love? My stance that if gay marriage is allowed then we need to allow it all. My point is that if this question is presented to members of the LGBT community, the vast majority of responses is hell no, what the hell is the matter with you? It’s odd to me that the LBGT community thinks the argument only applies to them. Furthermore, I’d be okay with if the Government got out of the business of marriage all together and only allowed civil unions and you would have to find a church to perform your marriage. This is just a thought exercise and I don’t approve of polygamy ether, both change our society without our acceptance, i.e. changing the terms of the contract.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I can't read without my spectacles... :(
    Sound advice... some people are not ready for the commitment a family brings.

    Hey, have you finished Spartacus?
    "“There is no greater victory than to fall from this world a free man." Spartacus
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  • Posted by barwick11 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    HIMself... not "her"self... geez oh man people...

    Does HE have an X and a Y chromosome? Yes or no?

    What you "feel" or "want" doesn't change the facts.
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  • Posted by barwick11 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    what the...

    really? "she" is a dude. "she" has an X and a Y chromosome. If dude wants to act different, fine, but "she" has something wrong in the head if "she" truly wants to live, act, and dress like a woman so badly that dude is willing to call himself by a female name, dress like a woman, and take hormones.

    A short few decades ago, our (much wiser) parents and grandparents would have taken dude to a mental hospital to get some real help.

    There's something *wrong* in their head if they truly want to go through those steps to appear to be a woman. That is not normal or healthy. And guess what, that's politically incorrect to say, but you know what? The TRUTH hurts. You all have read Ayn Rand's work, no matter what you "feel" or "want", doesn't change the FACTS.
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  • Posted by barwick11 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There was no reason to take the children away, that's true (though I suspect there's more to this story than we're hearing).

    BUT, the children were NOT being raised by a father and a mother, they were being raised by two women, one of whom THINKS she's a dude, and acts like a dude. But that doesn't make HER a dude.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 12 years, 7 months ago
    The court did the right thing society has become to accepting of aberrant behavior. Since the court is still out on whether sexuality choices of an adult is more influenced by Nature or Nurture children should be raised in as close to a traditional environment as possible in order to promote normal lifestyle. The choices that the child makes later in life should be respected but every opportunity for the child to develop without aberrant influences should be taken.
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  • Posted by stardustsara 12 years, 7 months ago
    good for the court. does anyone ever think of the child and how confusing and embarrassing it will be for him/her. it's a disgrace how far we have come from what is normal. no wonder kids are such a mess these days
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    T.V. shows and movies cater to what people want to see and can relate to. (Also I barely watch anything on tv besides the news, and I go to the movies once a year if that...so I don't really know or care.)
    I have heard all sorts of friends talk about their significant others...big whoop.
    I'm against PDA.
    None of what you mentioned is 'flaunting'...(except maybe public making out, nobody wants to have to look at that no matter who's doing it).
    We don't block traffic while scantily clad and march down public streets forcing others to witness all sorts of crazy and we don't scream chants that end with "get used to it!"
    Again...I will say...those are the types of things that, in the end, work against your cause.
    We don't appreciate force.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "An LGBT person engaging in harassment is an extraordinary claim."

    Never seen the Folsom Street Fair, have you?
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There was no oppressive sexism in the 1940s.
    Actually, it had less to do with femnazi rebellion than it had to do with the horror FDR perpetrated on the country by putting our women unnecessarily in factories. Dresses don't go so well in factories.
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  • Posted by $ Hiraghm 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I still don't see how. How could a female have herself mutilated to resemble a male before giving birth to a child? How could a female have herself mutilated to resemble a male and *subsequently* sire a child?
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Telling sexually deviant people that they should have to hide who they aren't when straight people don't is imposing a double standard. "

    FIFY.

    You're saying a homosexual's sexual appetite is what defines him. A heterosexual's sexual appetite doesn't define him, however.

    I have no idea what sexual appetites LetsShrug, Mitch or khalling have. And that's a good thing.

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  • Posted by $ 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Isn't it? Tell me, how often do you see heterosexual and heteronormative behavior depicted on TV and in the media? How many movies are about or involve a heterosexual love story? How often are gender stereotypes reinforced in virtually every facet of entertainment?

    Setting all that aside, how often do you hear straight friends or coworkers talking about their significant other? How often do you see straight couples kissing and holding hands in public?

    You say straight people don't flaunt their sexuality? Please, look around you, and wake up.
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No. I think she managed to raise two beautiful girls for thirteen years but under the false premise she was their father. I think ‘she’ should have waited a few more years before beginning any process or transition to claim being ‘female’. Her story is different because these children where biologically ‘his’. You just don’t make this kind of change in a young adolescent’s life and there not be serious consequences. Thirteen years is a long time of building relationships within a community. You are talking about tearing up the roots.
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  • Posted by $ 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's fine. I would never dream of forcing someone to exhibit a gender expression which was not in line with their gender identity.
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