Court takes couple’s children because father is transgender

Posted by Maphesdus 12 years, 7 months ago to Politics
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Apparently a man isn't fit to be a father if he was born female... -_-

READ ARTICLE: http://blog.timesunion.com/transgender/c...

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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 12 years, 7 months ago
    Since a lot of people in this thread are apparently unaware of the science behind this sort of thing, here's an informative and scientific article about the genetics behind intersex and transsexual conditions:

    https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-conte...

    Please read the article and educate yourself before you say that there is no rationality behind transsexualism. There's a great deal of rationality if you're willing put aside your prejudices and actually look at the science. ;)
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  • Posted by $ Hiraghm 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    BWAhahahahah.... I get it... that's like what Paul said to Hank in AS...
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A diamondback rattler also raises our awareness by shaking his 'booty'...but I'm not prone to "accept" him any sooner.

    Your group could use a good Madison Avenue rep....
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually, I think television is a method of observing and understanding reality, not escaping from it. There's a saying in film production that every story has a moral. And the morals presented through the stories of television can and do change the way people perceive and interact with the real world.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNNSyRyEN...
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "When you cram something in someone's face that they don't care to witness it's rude and intrusive and disrespectful. If I thought it was okay to operate in that manner I would be screaming in my friend's faces how stupid they are for not giving a shit about their country, that I think their lack of interest of current gov shenanigans disgusts me because it's willful ignorance and lazy to boot. But...I don't think that is the way to win anyone over to your way of thinking...even if I KNOW they are in the wrong for not using their noggins."
    ---
    Here's an article you might want to read:

    http://michaelprescott.freeservers.com/s...

    ;)
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  • Posted by barwick11 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Do you know how rare that is? You're an intelligent person, you make the assessment if the 0.0000001% of the cases of transgenders out there that have one of these conditions are actually a valid reason for people at large thinking they're the opposite sex...
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  • Posted by khalling 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    those parades are ludicrous spectacles and you know it.I can't imagine how they help.If one just wants to have fun and be silly, like in a parade, I don't know why it has to be in the context of one's sexual identity group-anyone can be silly and spectacle like then. I think they harm
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The point of my paragraph was not welfare...it was about it being wrong to try and impose your "know better-ness" on others.
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There's a condition known as androgen insensitivity syndrome, which can potentially cause a person with XY chromosomes to be born with a complete and fully functional female reproductive system, including ovaries and a uterus, and to appear totally physically female.

    Then there's also XX male syndrome, which is exactly what it sounds like.

    There's also what's called genetic mosaicism, where a person can have one set of cells with a particular set of chromosomes, and a second set of cells with a completely different set of chromosomes, and both sets of cells are intermingled together like a checkerboard pattern throughout the entire body.

    There are other conditions as well, but these are a few of the basics.

    Given the existence of conditions such as these, it becomes rather difficult to claim that chromosomes are an absolute, infallible indication of gender.

    https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-conte...
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I read that the showers have their own stalls now, too. Open showers are a thing of the past in California schools, so that's not an issue.
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's fine. I do think there's a legitimate argument against government welfare. But that's an entirely different topic.
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Except that it can be empirically proven that polygamy is harmful to women. It cannot be empirically proven that homosexuality is harmful to anyone.
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 12 years, 7 months ago
    Not entirely, but the parades certainly help.
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  • Posted by barwick11 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Heaven forbid you understand how the world works... that free men outperform slaves... that eeeeevil capitalism thing though
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  • Posted by plusaf 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    :)... yep, I used to belong to a Humanist Fellowship in Silicon Valley, but quit when some of the "leaders" decided my views on free-markets and capitalism weren't as good as theirs...
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I smelled a rat when they said they took custody away after a lawsuit brought by the grandparents. Grandparents can’t sue for rights in most states-- the exception usually being the kids lived with them for at least six months prior.
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  • Posted by khalling 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    the story was anecdotal with no names, as if I told you a story about some people I know. This is public record. and courts would not have removed the children for that reason. There needs to be more evidence-not given. I smell a rat.
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  • Posted by Boborobdos 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The article was quite clear, it isn't hysteria, and it isn't as if there was some other factor: "The grandparents got angry and sued for custody of the children.
    The twins have two loving parents.
    Child Protective Services have never been called; there have been no police reports of abuse; neither parent has a criminal record."

    So, it is purely the transgender issue. Why are you attempting to mitigate that?

    For the entire story you can go to: http://blog.timesunion.com/transgender/c...
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  • Posted by BYJR 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are correct in that I did over-react a bit regarding the anti-discrimination laws. I am actually not against such laws.

    Having said that...

    I have always been a proponent of basics and fundamentals. I see people arguing over specifics of an issue, while all too often end up missing the basic key point.

    This is what upset me yesterday, and set off my rant (which quite frankly I rarely do). The article was upsetting enough - with a court taking someone's children away -- but then I see the posters here arguing about a massive amount of detail about their views on transgender -- while practically ignoring the most important point -- that a local court was allowed to use force to take someone's children away without any reports of crime by the parents.

    [I am assuming the article was accurate -- if it is not so, then all this is academic anyway.]

    So please do not take my mis-statements yesterday as my view on anti-discrimination.

    My view is that no one, NO one has the right to violate anyone's human rights -- least of all a government. So whatever laws it takes to stop that from happening, I am all for them.

    I simply do not believe that a government has any business "controlling people's lives". It should be the other way around.
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Again, you misunderstand. The manufactured outraged would be coming from the LGBT community because they read an article that portrayed yet another victim of their community being persecuted without actually challenging the veracity of the story.
    I have no problem at all with mature adults of the transgender community raising children.
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  • Posted by Boborobdos 12 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And may I guess that you are outraged that someone who is transgender is raising kids?

    Why would you object here in America where folks are supposed to be free?

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