Herb did not drop context and is not dishonest. His support for wiping out those responsible for the barbarism that everyone recognizes and which continues to be a threat is not "hate-mongering", "collective punishment", or "guilt by association".

Context-dropping is intellectually dishonest. Here is more. It does not make one an "apologist" to know and report a balanced view: http://fff.org/explore-freedom/article/t...

Your image in the water? You use a waterboard for a mirror?

No, they didn't. But in the world of the Islamo-fascists, bombing is routine and isn't the issue; blasphemous cartoons are far more serious.

The "Paris bunch" is a lot bigger than the few perpetrators killed, this was not an isolated incident, and they made it very clear that they murdered the cartoonists and several others because of the cartoons about their religion. The Ron Paul apologetics with the left's hate America line isn't working.

Are you being an apologist for these "people?" Killing children by beheading, stoning women to death, decapitating reporters on TV for - no reason, killing people in the streets with an axe, with a gun, with a bomb. If you think you can reason with these animals, you might note that they have killed members of their own religion for not practicing it in the same way they do. I can find no reason to give these less-than-human creatures any consideration whatsoever. However, if your approach is used, I honestly believe it will be the end of Western Civilization and the start of a new Dark Ages.

Herb, the Paris bunch are already dead. Whom else do you want us to go after? Collective punishment? Guilt by association? Never presumed innocent?

Ever consider the possibility that they are retaliating for atrocities we have committed against them (not cartoons--bombs and drones)? The hate-mongering and barbaric proposals on this thread are sickening.

Maybe reminding the mozlems about committing SHIRK [for us infidels/kuffar (non-believers) the worst offense is to worship FALSE idols].

Isn't the hajj [compulsory pilgrimage to mekka] praying to a meteorite?

My 72 year old virgin barb never directly mentioned nuns, or priest for that matter LOL;
they will be shocked to discover that the virgins waiting for them are the previous suicide bombers.

I don't know if true - the suicide bombers are the decapitated corpse, the pressure wave from the explosion is supposed to rip their head off their shoulders.

Whatever works to terrorize or otherwise deter them in their subhuman level of animal existence. Put them on display with their head's interchanged with Porky's. Use their irrational beliefs against them in psychological warfare to the extent it makes getting rid of the threat any easier.

Who needs to wipe out who's family members? That's what the Ismo-fascists do to their enemies. It won't change until they become more significantly rational, not just change their dogmas, and that can't be done by their realizing they or their family will cease to exist. You can't accomplish anything threatening a fanatical suicide bomber with non-existence. He lives for that, as long he does live.

But you can't force someone to be rational. If they won't behave civilly then wipe them out to get rid of them in self defense, not to try to convince them -- when a war gets to that point it doesn't matter anymore what they think. If they don't capitulate then keep going until either they are gone or the only ones left in power have the sense to surrender.

Our political leadership not only doesn't understand the nature of war, they don't understand and don't want to understand the ideological motives of the Islamo-fascists. But we don't go after them for their religion or their motives, we go after them to put an end to their actions. Their beliefs and whether or not they understand are and have to be up to them. But understanding their ideology and motives is necessary to understand who and what the enemy and the threat are and where it is coming from (and which ones are not the enemies in war).

They see non-Muzzl'ems as humans worthy of life, to the extent they allow that at all, provided they dutifully practice dhimmitude. The Muslim they murdered was not an irony, he "betrayed" the Faith by going over the Dark Side as civilization.

Camels and goats is one approach -- even pigs -- but 72 year old nuns?

Maggots it is!

Aye captain. My Matilda, she's a chubby grubby, and eats first!

No!
Don't feed them to the pigs, besides giving them all kinds of digestive ailments, it is just cruel to feed that kind of trash to the pigs.
I will not stand you torturing animals, the pigs, have done nothing to deserve that kind of treatment!!

Leave their mulched, legs first, corpses for the maggots to enjoy.

Here a strawman, there a strawman, everywhere a strawman.

Put more simply - the specific book or mythology is not the problem
- it is taking / interpreting the writing as reality (or super-real / supernatural) and ignoring values such as
liberty, life, peace, responsibility, etc. All major religions tend to exhibit this problem, but most have been forced out of it,
typically through the loss of State power.

It's all that sexual frustration; no-HAM-head said the old men can have four wives and women of the right hand (concubine/slave girls aka 6 year old aisha).
What is junior supposed to do, there just isn't enough camels or goats.( or bachi boyz for that matter)

now, if you offend me by cartooning about my
favorite deity, I will celebrate your right to do so.
(I might retch in private, but, still.......)
there seems to be a cultural difference here. -- j

Remember the old phrase, "f**k them if they can't take a joke." The reality is that they can't. But instead of being cowed by this and limiting our free speech, we have to realize that all they understand is the use of force. The thing to do is be relentless in pursuit of these monsters who justify their actions by using a so-called religion as their justification. Once captured, show them no more mercy than they showed their victims and since this is truly a war, military justice should be used. A firing squad comes to mind.

Sounds like it.