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The One True God

Posted by khalling 10 years, 7 months ago to Philosophy
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Robin Craig, BSc (Hons 1, Univ. Medal), PhD graduated in molecular biology and is now an owner and COO of Australia’s longest surviving private biotechnology company. He has a long-term interest in both science and Objectivist philosophy and has hosted private monthly philosophy salons for over 15 years. His publications are wide ranging and include numerous scientific papers in genetics, philosophically-themed near-future science-fiction novels (the Just Hunter series) and short stories, the chapter “Good Without God” in The Australian Book of Atheism, philosophical essays on Amazon, and twenty years of Philosophical Reflections, a popular and controversial column in TableAus (the magazine of Australian Mensa). His website monorealism.com includes essays and debates on numerous philosophical topics.


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  • Posted by Watcher55 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As for consequences, you should read about The One True God more carefully :-)
    As for your specific questions:
    My origins are my parents. My ultimate origins lie in the origin of life on planet earth by chemical processes in an energy-rich environment.
    There is no afterlife. The question makes no sense. Life is a process. When the process is ended, there is nothing left of it except its component chemicals.
    No I am not a bunch of chemicals randomly arranged. There is nothing random about life or what makes it possible.
    Right and wrong are determined by what is right and wrong for the life of a thinking being. If you are truly interested in the question, try this: http://tinyurl.com/6vf9yd7
    If the meaning of our lives is determined by some unknowable extra-human being, then nothing has any meaning because it can change at any time dependent only on the whims of that unknowable and reportedly inimical being. The meaning of your life is the meaning you choose for it.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah, you gotta like them new duds.

    Once these ground wars are over, the Army team will be back. Not too many kids who might be enticed to an academy are going to go to one where they have a good chance of being shot at in just a few years.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, to say something is even possible one needs to first say something about what one means by "deity". This may seem nitpicking but some notions abut "God" are in fact logically impossible.

    Then you have the problem that that which is possible in reality still should not be believed to be actuality without evidence that it is more than merely possible, evidence that it in fact does exist. To believe without this and act as if it does exist, much less that it is the most highly important, is not rational.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Why do you need a reason beyond being alive and your own choices about how to live your life if you decide to continue living? Why does it need some outside life and oneself purpose?
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  • Posted by 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    ah x. lbegg's son is on the navy varsity team. and navy just had new uniforms made with a don't tread on me theme.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    you and I are similar. We look to the points as measures that the audience understands out point of view. I rarely downvote. If I ever do, you'll hear it from me before you see the zero :)
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  • Posted by 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Dr. Craig's point about why do we have to even entertain a concept of which there is no scientific proof-going backwards by saying "I don't know" is well taken.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    you ask good questions. but even better-is quantum mechanics on the right path? but I like questions like this: consciousness meeting physics.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The debate goes on.
    The problem is that we know just enough about the universe to get us in trouble. But, we're working on it. Instead of using the word God, what about The Intelligence? Where does consciousness lead us? What happens when consciousness meets quantum physics? On and on. Who knows what answers will come to us in a hundred, two hundred years? It might turn out that everyone is right. The only answer that can be given at present is, "I don't know, and neither do you."
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 7 months ago
    For some reason, my post from earlier didn't get added.

    You'll probably find this hard to believe, but I agree with most of what Dr. Craig writes. I just don't believe that it negates the possibility of a deity. See my other post in response to your quip on the Catholic theology. It's not that different. Free will and reason are critical to being moral people.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    From an article on St. Augustine (Catholic Online):

    "Augustine begins to answer the age-old question why man chooses to do evil by clarifying that what makes humans distinct from animals is the fact that humans have the capability of reasoning and animals do not. Then he points out that some things that men possess uniquely as opposed to animals, such as the �power to jest and laugh� and �the love of praise and glory,� are �of a lower order.� Therefore, when reason rules the soul, �the more perfect [reason] is made subject to the less perfect [desire and passion].� In our day, most people do not even realize they should work toward having reason rule their lives. "

    We're not so far apart.
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  • Posted by flanap 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks. For the record, I never post comments hoping to get pluses or minuses. May the results be those of Objectivists' wishes.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 7 months ago
    You'll probably find this hard to believe, but I agree with most of that. I just don't see that it negates the possibility of a deity.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    flanap, I turned the being the nonconformist 0 someone subtracted from and gave you back your 1.
    Just wanted you to know I did that before either one of us gets subtracted again.
    Something can't come out of nothing.
    There is no oo-ee mystery about how.
    Not to me.
    And to hell with any subtractions anyone cares to shove down my throat too.
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  • Posted by flanap 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So how do you address origins or afterlife? Are you an annihilationist? Are you just a bunch of chemicals randomly arranged to result in you? How is right and wrong determined? Without an extra-anthropic standard which is immutable, then nothing has any meaning as it can change at anytime dependent only upon the whims of man.

    Ignoring this doesn't put you above it in terms of consequences.

    Either there are reasons for life or not.
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  • Posted by peterchunt 10 years, 7 months ago
    Too be honest I really don’t give a damn about is there or is there not a God. I am and have been an atheist since my teen years. I also believe in letting those who want to believe, go ahead and believe what they want, so long as they don’t push their beliefs on me, as I don’t try to push my beliefs on them. Religion is just a subset of Philosophy. My philosophy happens to be based on Objectivism. If someone asks me my philosophy I am more than happy to expound on it. Just because we have differences doesn’t mean we cannot be friends. Just as there are religious groups trying to force down our throats their religion, so to are there atheists groups trying to do the same (they just don’t cut off heads in the process). Either extreme does no one any good. We can all live in peace, accept that there are going to be differences and go on with our lives.
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