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A photo that says it all

Posted by Non_mooching_artist 11 years, 5 months ago to Pics
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A friend posted this on FB. I HAD to share it. Enjoy!


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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Some of us males have been around life long enough to have learned where not to tread. :D It does make for interesting reading from which a conclusion can be drawn - Women are from Venus, Men are from Mars.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You call it idle curiosity...I think people's stories are interesting. It's like reading a book...experiencing something vicariously and learning from it.
    Anyway...like I've already said, I tend to agree with your points about women voters. Most women I know (gulch excluded, kh) are brain dead in the voting department...I've been complaining to great length in here about how nobody talks about important issues and I find this fact extremely frustrating in my day to day life...at work etc. My friends are door knobs (and I'm using the word "friends" lightly). Which is the very reason why I'm in the gulch...for the discussion.
    I am not one of those women you speak of. please keep that in mind...you don't need to convince me and you're not the first person I've heard say it.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Many have expressed that the gulch is refreshing compared to typical discussion forums... I think you came in at an odd moment.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Fred....you are not listening to what I've been telling you.
    We talk about Rand, her philosophy, her many books...we post quotes from books that knock our socks off and discuss her ideas at GREAT LENGTH.. just because when you decided to come and read some gulch post (we've been here since Aug 2012 by the way), we happened to be talking about other things does not warrant your habitual criticism.
    Please, I beg of thee, post something you want to discuss about Rand or her works and I will happily hop over and discuss til the cows come home. Go make a post! I look forward to it.
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No problem. I probably overreacted. It would not have been the first time that someone couldn't come up with any facts to support their position and decided to dig into irrelevancies, but I can see that wasn't your intention, so I apologize. Personally, I don't generally have that sort of idle curiosity, so it makes it a little harder for me to understand why it would be of interest to anyone else.
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've lost the thread. To what message do you refer? "any"?

    Just a shot in the dark, but:

    1) Women are the majority of voters (~53% of all voters)
    2) The "gender gap" between men and women is 10% or 20% or 18% depending on which source you cite and how they measure it. (The major discrepancy seems to be that in one measure, if 60% of women went for Obama and only 40% of men did, the "gap" is 20%, but some say, "If 10% of men/women changed their vote, the gap would be eliminated." Either way, in political terms it's a HUGE gap, considering that in most elections, 45% just vote for their "tribe" and the election is decided by the remaining 10%).

    So the majority of the majority voted for Obama, both times. And the majority of the minority voted against Obama (men - both times). If you've bothered to read the pages at the links I've cited, you'll see that only one democratic president would have been elected in modern times without the female vote. Frankly, I think the Republicans (most of them) are almost as bad as the Democrats. I think of them in terms of the Demoncrats are communists and the Republicans are socialists - with a few Constitutionalists who are trying to drag the Socialist, I mean REPUBLICAN party back to its former roots.

    So when I speak of the majority of women, I speak of idiots. When I speak of the majority of voters, I speak of idiots. And when I speak of the majority of women voters, I speak of… well, you know.

    Let's try that with men. The majority of male voters… wait. They WEREN'T stupid enough to vote for Obama. If it had been left up to men alone to decide, Obama never would have won in the first place. Either time. And as bad as Bush was (and he was HORRIBLE) he wasn't anywhere near as bad as the communist currently in the Oval Office.

    Now here's a little factoid that I didn't know before - but which shows how utterly stupid women really are: The majority of WORKING women voted for Obama! Here's hoping they're in a high enough tax bracket that their health insurance premiums quintuple and they can no longer afford it.
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  • Posted by airfredd22 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    OK, a legitimate question. I would direct your attention that I used quite a few question marks (?) in my comments. I of course apologize if my intention wasn't clear. It's certainly not to "harp," but to point out that Ayn Rand's books and especially Atlas Shrugged are indeed wonderful novels, but they are also great philosophical masterpieces. Aside from the romantic aspects they are primarily commentary on what she saw the future of this country to be. How right she was can now bee seen on a daily basis.

    Now we might disagree on those future projections of hers, but those discussions would be much more appropriate than some of the celebrity drivel I've seen here. There are places all over the net for that type of commentary, I thought better of her readers and now movie buffs of her book. If I was mistaken in that view, then I apologize for my foolishness in hoping for conversation and discussions of her work. I guess I'll just shrug as well at the foolishness.

    Fred
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So, rather than destroying America out of selfishness, women are destroying America out of whimsy? (I think that may be worse than the alternative.) Or "peer pressure" (that they feel in a voting booth where no one can see what their vote is???) You've opened up entirely NEW possibilities for the utter stupidity of the majority of women! They're screwing up America, not because they feel a NEED to do it, but just because,"Oh, gee whiz. Angela is voting for Obama, so I probably should too" or "I'm so freaking gutless, I'm afraid Sharon won't like me anymore if I don't vote for Obama" or even, "Obama's black. I'll vote for the black guy because we haven't had a black president before. Next time I'll vote for a Nazi because we haven't had one of those yet either!"

    I know I see the world through my own "lens". We all do. We tend to ascribe to others some of the attributes we possess, even if there's no evidence they share the trait. It's a human failing. So, being largely logic-oriented, I ascribe to women a measure of logic that they apparently do not possess. I think that they do something because they reason that it's the best choice - but I see now that I'm probably mistaken. There is no "reason" to the process.

    We might as well let monkeys vote.



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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Fred, please explain...what IS the purpose of this site. Perhaps we've been mislead (for the last year and half).
    Is the purpose to chastise everybody elses conversations? Because so far that's all I'm seeing from you. Stop harping already..sheesh.
    Song for you:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eps81-QV_...
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It was pure curiosity ONLY. I've already said you have valid points. I didn't think my asking for your story was as intrusive as the questions you have come up with, but I digress. I apologize for asking anything personal. Won't happen again.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think often , especially those with means, do it out of peer pressure. They don't want to associated wtih the sarah Palin lovers for example. and the reason I gave before about having the first black President. I have many acquaintances who are not concerned for their security but want to be "nice" people and take care of the poor. Look at the number of affluent progressives who live mostly in urban areas. I'll agree their thinking is illogical but men are the same in urban areas. I'm not saying that many do not vote themselves in goodies-we know they do. It's not just about logical thinking abilities, however. I know many "scientists" who swear man made global warming exists. why do they get to vote or even be scientists for that matter?
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  • Posted by 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I would not either. I vote because I can, and would not dream of revoking it, because of how another person chooses to vote. Slippery dangerous slope.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm not going to agree that women should not be allowed to vote because many of them vote for things I might abhor. Even if I agreed with your logic, I would not sit idly by while MY rights to vote were revoked-you know, for the good of the country
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If it's not to protect themselves, then why do the majority of women vote socialist?

    It's one thing to say, "No. That's not it." But what's the alternative hypothesis?
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    See? All you've done is make the case that there exists at least one woman who is not a total moron. The problem is, there are over 100 million+ "walking dead" (a minority of whom are men).

    I wish there were a device that allowed one to determine the IQ of those around you, something like a colored light that was white at 100, deep red at 90 and bright green above 120. It sure would save a lot of time to know in advance when the person you're talking to is too stupid to understand what you're saying. (By the same token, it can be torture to try to figure out what some morons are going on about. Take Chuck Schumer and his recent tirades against "plastic guns"!)

    James Fixx (author of "Games for the Super-Intelligent") once said that when two people's IQs differ by more than 30 points, they have nothing in common. I've generally found that to be true.

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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not sure what you mean by that? Are you saying you love socialist policies so much that you will continue to vote for them despite the fact that the "team" (America) is being killed by that approach?
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The "coin" is guaging by "feelings" rather than thoughts or facts. If the question was asked to no purpose, then you're just wasting time. The most likely purpose for asking is to judge me by my "feelings" (since the answer has no probative value to the issue under discussion).

    What if I asked you if you've ever had a taxpayer-funded abortion, ever got drunk and had sex with a total stranger, ever cheated on your boyfriend/husband? Ever been arrested for criminal activity? Are you one of those "welfare queens"? Do you use mind-altering drugs? Are you a drunk? Those would all be "back story" questions - but of what relevance to the discussion? The issue (to me) is the majority of women who have consigned America to destruction through their short-sighted voting patterns - not whether you're a welfare slut or I'm a misogynist.

    When someone adduces relevant facts, I don't really care whether they're male, female, transgendered, Democrat, Nazi, Republican, Libertarian, white, black, red, yellow, purple, lutheran, catholic, satanist, agnostic, atheist. A fact is a fact, regardless of who introduces it. If you have issue with any facts I've presented, fire away, but in case you haven't noticed, I've given links for source material (haven't noticed anyone else doing that) so if you have issues with what I've presented, you can go direct to the source, read the material yourself and draw your own conclusions. That's a level of transparency I don't see most places - even here, where people tend to be a little smarter than the average bear.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, I would do the same regarding Nancy Pelosi if I was standing there. I am a huge supporter of gun rights. Life member NRA, carry permit for my state and Utah CCP. I'm not a simpering female who cowers at the first sign of trouble. I love when my husband opens a door for me. But I accord him equal respect.

    I use my mind rationally because I enjoy it. It is what separates me from the walking dead who surround most of us perpetually. I'm sorry that in your experience, you've come across those who are not deserving of your regard. But to dismiss all because of that isn't rational. I don't believe in title 9 either. Or any other policy that skews admission because of gender or race. All applications for college or jobs should NOT have any questions regarding those attributes. Admission solely on merit. Period. But that's just me. I don't expect anyone to give me anything I haven't earned.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What coin did I trade in exactly? I wasn't disputing facts...I was simply curious of your back story (I'm curious about everyone's back story)...it doesn't change the facts.
    I have NO idea why the majority of women are stupid. I'm as disgusted by it as anyone. I work with a hundred of them and if I relied on them for any current event information all I'd know about would be the Jodi Arias trial or Dancing with he stars. "Educated" women completely incapable and uninterested in having meaningful conversations. It's a complete mystery to me. Willful ignorance? Laziness? Denial? PC? Scared of being judged for having an opinion? I've been trying to figure it out for yeeeears, but when they don't talk it's not easy to figure out!
    Hate women...it's of no consequence to me. We are still free to hate, right? (Maph is working on forcing us to change that.)
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