U.S. ARMY U.S. Army Techniques Publication 3-39.33: Civil Disturbances August 15, 2014

Posted by richrobinson 11 years, 5 months ago to The Gulch: General
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I was reading an article that mentioned this publication from the army that deals with civil unrest. I wander if these techniques will be used in Ferguson?


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  • Posted by xthinker88 11 years, 5 months ago
    You've got to love how they list employment of armed responses against unarmed civilians. Interesting how a US Army publication advocates outright murder.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The problem is that the locals have been propagandized by the race mongers to believe that this was an intentional murder.
    And they've been so emotionally charged that no "facts" are going to dissuade this perspective.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    At most, the NG will be called out to ring the area and not let it move out from there. But if you're a business owner or a white home owner, expect not to be protected.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    WoW! . I'm in there with you -- I spent 33 years in
    Oak Ridge building things for the military, while a
    member of the usaf ... right there in the center
    of the target. . Hi There, NSA! -- j

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  • Posted by barwick11 11 years, 5 months ago
    You do know George Washington called in the Army to deal with the Whiskey Rebellion?

    This isn't new. Most of the people in Ferguson are pretty peaceful. A little (ok, a lot) misguided, but peaceful. But there's some agitators, and when agitators get in a bunch, they stir up trouble, and get some of those peaceful people to do stupid stuff.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am an honorary Ojibway. I went through the ceremonial ritual including a sweat lodge, hallucinated and received my N.A. name. I guess if I ever need to hide out, I could travel back to Michigan, but at 80 years of age, the trip would probably kill me faster than whoever would be chasing me. Had the Dems gotten both houses and with all the stuff I've written in the past few years, I most likely would have been at top of the regime's list. At least, I'd like to think so.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I didn't read the whole thing. Is it trying to poke holes and exceptions into the rule against the Army performing domestic law enforcement? I strongly disagree with the military doing law enforcement. They need to keep a mindset of fighting an enemy, and police can't have that mindset and do a good job.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 11 years, 5 months ago
    It seems to me that this is just a review of long established regulations and procedures. The tone of the article seems reasonable as well.

    Jan
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They are here to help us all get along in spite of our shortcomings, just like the VIKI from "I, Robot".

    The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one, as long as the decision maker is the one.
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  • Posted by UncommonSense 11 years, 5 months ago
    Rich, Be Advised: my Webroot Anti-malware prevented me from accessing the site due to malicious content. Just FYSA. (For Your Situational Awareness). Otherwise, very interesting subject and I wouldn't be surprised if they are doing just that in Da Ferg.
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  • Posted by sfdi1947 11 years, 5 months ago
    Well given the Pub Date and Obama's reluctance to declare a National Emergency, he took ten days with the Gulf Oil Spill, the Army National Guard will not have the Pub distributed yet. so, I doubt they will use it, but the old one was sever enough. Also the lack of a Federal Designation prevents use of the Active Army and Reserves (Posse Comitatus); further, for all its coverage, Ferguson was really small scale, never more than 4-5 thousand people in the street, including looters during the trouble, and fewer than 10k in the daytime marches, many of whom were outside agitators.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The cop is already in hiding. He even failed to show up to appear in court over some arrests he has made.
    Oh, well, I predicted here when all this mess started is that the poor dude will have to find a way to disappear. There is no attacking black felon white shooter protection program.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 11 years, 5 months ago
    Look up the Insurrection Act (passed in 1807 folks), and you'll see this shouldn't be a surprise. What is astonishing is that the only President who's ever used the executive powers available under this act was Lincoln. The military is only responding to its obligation to obey the orders of the civilian leadership when it plans for such an eventuality. People are often confused about how readily available such authoritarian power is to the American President, wailing about how the Posse Comitatus laws prevent such action. The P.C. laws only prohibit the military usurping the role of law enforcement in the absence of evidence of insurrection, but when the President declares such insurrection exists, all bets are off, and P.C. restrictions are meaningless.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That is possible but I think the concern is the protests. If news reports are correct no charges should be filed against the officer. It's a difficult spot to be in. If they do the right thing the town will erupt.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks for the update. New dino thought: Did the Ferguson powers that be not want their verdict to in any way influence the outcome of the midterm elections?
    Other inquiring minds may want to speculate. Others may say, "Shut up, you stupid lizard, you're off topic."
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