Democracy has put us in this sorry state. When one can vote themselves unearned benefit, through thoughtful or uninformed vote, the Republic collapses.
The first sign of the fall of a civilization is the degradation of the language.

I think the polls are proving you are right. It sounds like the "undecided " are all breaking Republican or against Obama.

I have concuded that it does not matter. We are in the Abyss already. This is an election about rejecting Obamas policies. A vote for anyone else accomplishes that. Vote for the best person who have a chance of winning that is not a liberal. Case closed:)

ditto

Maybe a better question to ask is this: Does anyone with a mind that functions believe Democrats anymore? We will find out election day.

I would love to see serious tort reform!

It is similar to that. Lucy ever try to shame Charlie for not being willing to trust her again? I get so tired of naive sheep telling me "can't complain if you don't vote." What brainwashed irrational subjective idiocy!

two things: it takes monopoly granting powers away from states (Big insurance companies like that for many reasons-some are reasonable). actuarial tables often have geographical bounds, so if you pack up your Colorado plan and move to Pennsylvania the risk changes. But keeping your plan with you when you move can be good for the company too. IT's just resistance by the industry to allow in new competition. THAT's what its all about you know. They don't want competition, they're in bed with the govt, so when the govt does something they don't like, they have to shut up and go along and hope to be at the top of the pyramid. They didn't feel any urgency on it. after all, THEIR plan didn't change did it?

I don't get the opposition to interstates insurance policies. I also thought the Republicans could have made a case for doing something less drastic first. This whole this has been a debacle from the start.

Good one!

So you are a maybe? Okay just kidding.

Hell no!

the only alternative I see would be eliminate interstate restrictions on selling policies, make the tax deduction personal, not corporate, or get rid of it altogether. Block grant out Medicare and Medicaid. Torte reform which limits total damages to no more than say $1 million under any circumstance. Pain and suffering should be eliminated. Life is risky.

I think we can do it. The Republicanalternatives in the past have all died in the US Senate. All we have to do is remember when Paul Ryan and the Repbulican were trying to express their views when Obama had his health care committee meeting. The video of Ryan trying to express his postion and Obama simply moving on was revealing. With a little power we might get some movements. I want the public to see Obama vetoing all the good bills that will hopefully come across his desk.

Not sure why the Republicans have not tried this approach. I think it would have wide appeal.

Yes That is what is going through my mind as well. We can take some popular provisions and add it to a new bill while taking out most of verything else and let the free market determine the features to be offered

I like that quote. Now the question is, can we get it back?

Hear, hear! If it cannot be repealed it can be de-funded. Perhaps a compromise could be reached if a credible threat of de-funding was made. Keep the preexisting condition and staying on your parents policy till out of college provisions, but remove the mandatory purchase and otherwise get the government out of it completely. Also improve affordability by allowing interstate competition, addressing tort reform etc.

Let's see if there is an outcry from the public after the November sign up and the phase in of more of the law. This law is going to bankrupt our country so possibly as part of a budget deal it can be scaled back or Republicans can cut off funding.

Reminds me of the Ben Franklin quote:

A Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin, “Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?” With no hesitation whatsoever, Franklin responded, “A republic, if you can keep it.”

Even if we take the Senate as long as Obama can veto we can not appeal this law. We would need 60 votes and that may be remote. If the Obamacare sign up in November makes people mad enough possibly we can get a few democrats to join in the repeal ie Joe Manchin. With that said I still think Republicans have to offer some alternative that is more attractive rather than an outright repeal. I would love a repeal but right now it does not seem possible politically.

Those unpatriotic stiffs:) Seriously though its another reason for voter ID. I think the mood for clean elections is growing and if conservatives win. So I believe there are policies republicans can enact that will benefit the country

I am lucky that the district I am in is represented by a good person, Keith Rothfus. I knew Keith before he ran for office and he is someone I am voting for and not just voting against his opponent. The rest pretty much fit into the South park categories.

Per my previous comments, this clip from South Park sums up my views on voting in the current two party system. Warning, do not watch if you are offended by potty humor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pji_IX-Ua...

+1 for truth.